So, what happened? Apparently there was some sort of rights mix-up regarding the inclusion, in the original set, of episode 212- GODZILLA VS. MEGALON. In the new set, which Rhino has called “The Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection, Vol. 10.2,” that disc has been replaced with a disc containing episode 402- THE GIANT GILA MONSTER.
Even more exciting–one of the features of the disk will be a short sketch featuring Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu and J. Elvis Weinstein commenting on the SNAFU that led to the withdrawl and re-release.
The disc also includes an extra feature starring actor Don Sullivan (who stars in “The Giant Gila Monster”).
Tentative street date: Feb 5th.
As a reminder, the other three episodes in the set are episode 503- Swamp Diamonds (plus short: What to Do on a Date), episode 514- Teen-age Strangler (plus short: Is this Love?) and episode 810- The Giant Spider Invasion.
Awesome. Any word on if they’ll be packaging the disc separately for us lucky bastards who bought Vol. 10.1?
… oy. Is there any chance of those of us who got the set the first time around (who I would imagine is “everyone reading this site”) getting our hands on the Gila disc WITHOUT having to re-buy the whole set? I mean, I’ll pay the what, $15 or so for a single-disc release…
Criswell predicts!
Rhino *will* offer Giant Gila Monster to those who have already purchased Vol. 10(.1).
It will be made available in Mystery Science Theater 3000 Essentials, Vol. 2: a two-disc volume featuring Gila Monster and Manos, The Hands of Fate.
Criswell Predicts!
Why on Earth would you NOT want the entire Volume 10.2? I mean, what a conversation piece! I personally will be might proud to have it tucked safely away on my wall ‘o videos in between Volumes 10.1 and 11!
To those asking about a separate release for “Giant Gila Monster,” all I can say is: Anything is possible; stay tuned.
Uh…my head…uhh…don’t want to buy set all over again…BUT it has Gila Monster…AND Joel, Trace, Josh extra…ahhhh!!
I am in the boat of Please release Giant Gila Monster separately, I would hate to buy a set again for one title, even if its one I wanted like forever
I already emailed “drrhino” about this
Yes, I most definitely don’t want to shell out $60 for ONE movie. And I’m not ebaying my set because I want to keep GODZILLA. Do the right thing, Rhino! (and please release the Mexican SANTA CLAUS).
M Sipher: “those of us who got the set the first time around (who I would imagine is “everyone reading this site”)”
‘Fraid not. Sure wish I had, though.
I sing whenever I sing whenever I sing…
If they don’t release it as a single disc, I’ll just rent it and burn it. No big loss. Total dick move, but what would you expect after the crap they pulled with “the essentials”?
Just wanted to add my voice to all those who already purchased Volume 10. I want “Gila Monster” and the new special features, but I don’t want to re-purchase the set.
Rhino came through for us quite well in replacing “Killer Shrews”. Please tell me they can do something similar. I’ll pay for the single disc!!!
Whoa, lost in all this perfectly understandble talk of a God turned into a Gila (I want the damn disc too, as I do have Vol. 10)is the fact that Joel, Trace, and “Elvis” are doing something new for a Best Brains release. Does this mean they are at least talking to Mallon?
While I think it’s great that people who missed out on the 10.1 release can get 3/4 of the discs available in that set - put me firmly in the camp of those who want the single-disc Gila because we bought 10.1 when it came out.
- oh, and Rhino? If you’re reading this, don’t get any bright ideas about a 9.2, 10.3, 4.8 or other re-releases. That would just make Baby Jesus cry.
Allow me to join the chorus of lucky 10.1 owners. Hopefully Sampo’s hint will come true and those of us who have the set already (kinda) will be offered a olive branch from Rhino.
Folks, keep in mind that while hardcore fans have the original Vol. 10 (probably because they preordered) anybody who hesitated at ALL didn’t get it. So for a lot of people this is their first chance to get Vol. 10. But I can assure you they are aware that this issue is out there.
Sonny: Actually I would love to see Vol. 9.2 come along soon, since that’s the other volume that was pulled.
You can also let your voice be heard at drrhino@rhino.com.
I’ll tell you what, if they don’t handle the problem, those of us with 10.1 can get into contact with 10.2, break the rules, and burn each other a copy of the one movie we’re missing. I really don’t want to be be S.O.L.
Well all I can say is that I own the original Volume 10 but really want the Gila disc with extra stuff from Joel et al. If it is available as a separate disc then hopefully it’ll be made available to Misties worldwide (I did eventually get my Killer Shrews replacement after a very long time). Shamefully if it’s not then I won’t have the option to rent so I’d need to buy the whole damn set!
Why was Vol. 9 pulled? And any other volumes I might not know of, for that matter.
I am looking forward to Version 10.2 only because MST3K: Vol 10 is such a solid set of episodes. Volume 10 is the set that I loan to friends who have never seen the show before. It is a great set for those new to the show.
Having said that - PLEASE release The Giant Gila Monster separately. My wife bought me the unMSTied version of the movie on one of those $1.00 DVDs; it can’t cost Rhino all that much to release the episode individually.
Who wants to lay odds on a CT plug in that feature
I’m sure Rhino will do the right thing, but it’s an interesting way to reward those of us who bought the 10.1 release right away.
They could have avoided this whole ugly mess if they re-released 10.2 with one of their previous single titles (or better yet, the rare and hard-to-get “Shorts Vol 3″) and then made a huge holiday $ killing by releasing Ginormous Gila with Mexican Santa Claus as an Essentials Vol 2 just before TurkeyDay. Of course, that would require some marketing smarts and it’s a little late now….
No worries here; as has been stated above, Rhino will eventually listen to the mob reaction and send out the extra disc. My problem is, as a completionist (and probably victim of OCD), if the packaging is at all different (and it will be - no dinosaur will grace the cover) I still MUST buy 10.2 in order keep perfect my complete collection of everything ever produced by any member of BBI ever in the history of the show, for ever and ever, amen….
…. I need help.
I think that this is a smart move by Rhino, as long as they offer the single Gila DVD. They’ve been good to us in the past, so I’m sure that they will. If not, they must know that nobody’s going to re-buy the set for one DVD. Instead, they’ll resort to other means to obtain it, resulting in a loss of potential revenue.
Sampo (et. al.):
While I can - and do - understand the joy over the re-release (?) of the boxset for the people who did NOT get 10.1, my fear is that Rhino could (not that they will, per se) take the opportunity to get many of us who purchased 10.1 to ante up another $60 or so for the 10.2 just so that we can get the bonus disc. And…if sales of 10.2 look like they could then justify a re-release of 9.2 substituting another film…we’d be in the same predicament. Since these are the only two sets (currently) out of circulation, I don’t think we’ll see a 1.2, 3.4 etc. re-release of the other sets.
Granted, in a perfect world, for people who have 10.1, we’d all either get the bonus disc for free/discounted or we’d all have the money to buy 10.2, keep the Gila disc, and then give away the other three discs to potential new MST3K fans. I’m all for continuing to circulate the
tapesDVD’s, but not at the expense of alienating/annoying the fanbase who’ve given financial support to the releases thus far.Again: I don’t see this as Rhino’s intent. I simply think they’re trying to get the DVD’s to the fans, and I applaud them for this. If this means a re-release of Volume 10 (or subsequently Volume 9) so that fans can get the discs - great. And I fully understand that if/when these are re-released, I am under no obligation to buy the new set just to get the disc(s).
Like the fans who would want the 10.2 box set for the discs, I would want the single Gila disc for my collection because I am a fan as well.
And yes - Dr. Rhino shall hear of this!
I really believe that Rhino will sell the Gila Monster disc separately.
I think the right thing to do is
1- Have 10.2 for those that missed Volume 10 altogether
2- Offer The Giant Gila Monster as a separate DVD like they did with Hellcats, Eegah, Mitchell.
This would please all the fans I would think, and isn’t that what Rhino & other DVD distributors are supposed to be about (besides the almighty dollar)- putting things out to make their customers happy.
I am very glad to see Gila Monster finally coming out but I would hate having to double dip around 50.00 for one thing..
I hope they think twice about doing a Volume potential 9.2 or something. Before you know it every set would have a .2 next it with a new title inserted with 3 others we had..that is not very good
Whoo-hoo! Giant Gila Monster! I’ve been waiting like FOREVER for this!
Great to see Rhino will be re-releasing Volume 10! Giant Gila Monster is a great episode, and the bonus features sound awesome. Rhino should have done their research with Godzilla vs. Megalon, I’ve known since the day the set was announced that it would be pulled soon after.
Anyhow.. hopefully Rhino will offer some sort of deal for those of us who already bought Vol. 10 to get the new disc.
I’m in the crowd of lucky ones who got Vol 10 originally, and interestingly enough (to me at least) Giant Gila Monster is the only surviving taped episode I still own. That being said, I still hope they release it as a single disc. I want to see the new extras, and the quality of my VHS tape has declined quite a bit.
A full commercial release of Gila as a single wouldn’t make sense for Rhino, since they’d be spending money on it just to potentially cannibalize the market for 10.2. Nor would I expect them to give us the disc for free, since it’s not a Shrews-style replacement of a botched disc.
What would make more sense would be a special offer, made through sites like this, mst3k.com, and rhino.com, in which you could pay $10 or $12, and get the Gila disc in an envelope. Rhino could make a profit on the deal, and presumably only people who already have 10.1 would bother to seek it out.
Incidentally, does anyone know which was the problem movie on Volume 9?
I’m ambivalent.
On one hand, I already have volume 10.
On the other hand, Giant Gila Monster is probably one of my top 5 favorite episodes.
On yet another hand I thought the Godzilla movie in the original set was kinda boring.
On the fourth hand (someone else is standing behind me putting their hands out) I still want to keep the Godzilla movie because I want to have a complete set of everything.
Maybe Rhino could make it so that if you send them one of the
PROOF OF PURCHASE SEALS
from the original volume 10, you can buy the disc separately.
It is cool that they’re putting volume 10 out again in case someone was unable to get it the first time but maybe they should have put a movie they already released in a single set (like Eegah! or something) and saved Gila for a future release.
I’m hoping they can do a paper-sleeve release like they did with Shrews, at least.
If they don’t, I’m going to Netflix it and burn it.
Sorry, I’ve bought every VHS and DVD release, but I’m not going to pay $60 for one episode.
Bad news. I just contacted Rhino and they won’t sell Giant Gila Monster separate. I guess we will have to buy Volume 10.2.
I’m in the club of unlucky people who had to shell out double for Volume 10 because it was pulled and the greedy wheels of commerce must be greased.
So if Rhino doesn’t do a separate release of GGM, I’m out $50-60 for one episode.
That’s just a boatload of ain’t right.
Randy
Complain complain complain. Rhino added some new neat stuff instead of just releasing it without the godzilla movie and you guys are complaining. Maybe they should just not put anything out at all because anything they do is a rip off. Come on, really.
you know, not to be a nerd or anything, but technically if we are speaking in computer terms the godzilla 10 would be 10.0 and the gila one would be 10.1
Did Rhino ever end up doing anything for folks on the Shrew and the Dead talk back (or whatever it was) discs since they had encoding errors?
I remember hearing something, but I never ended up getting my discs replaced.
I got a replacement for Killer Shrews. I didn’t hear anything about The Dead Talk Back.
Anyone got info on getting the Killer Shrews replacement disc?
You’re darn right I’m complaining. I am not made of money and I’m not going to waste $40-50 on a set that I already own, for the most part. I am officially pissed off at Rhino, unless they find a way to honor those of us who did pick up the original Volume 10. It may be wonderful for those of you who missed the original, but it’s a slap in the face to the rest of us, whether you realize it or not.
Well, at least they picked one of the best episodes. I LOVE The Giant Gila Monster!!! The “Leg Up” routine is probably the best they ever did, AND it is from the era where the host segments actually reflected the movie.
I still don’t want to buy the whole boxed set to get it, though.
I’d like to add myself as an owner of vol. 10 who would like a separate DVD of The Giant Gila Monster episode. Yes, it is good that vol. 10 is, in a way, being re-released for those that missed it, but, in end, I’d be paying around $50 for one DVD.
Contacted Dr. Rhino. Don’t know where FrankTV got his news, but until I hear it officially here, I still have hope that we’ll get the Gila Monster. Otherwise, It’s copy time (I have 10.1 for all you Godzilla-desiring people).
I think it’s too early to start getting up in arms about this since the set won’t be released for another two months, but I have trust in Rhino. They’re not out to make a quick buck and I’m sure they’ll eventually think of a acceptable solution.
That being said, if the only way to get “Gila Monster” is to buy volume 10.2, then I’m not too upset by it. A few of my friends (and my 10 year-old niece!) have recently become fans of the show, so I have no problem purchasing the set and giving away the extra discs for the sake of “circulating the tapes”.
But I still think Rhino will come up with something.
Dr Rhino replied with this bit of “F-you” to those of us who were good enough to buy the first set from them right away:
“This title is tentatively scheduled for a February 2008 release. There are no current plans for any single disc releases from this title, but thanks for your input. I’ll forward your letter to our suggestion box.”
I think enough P-O’d fans might convince them to sell us a little Gila-disc-in-a-sleeve, but only time will tell.
Why bother selling “gila” in a re-hashed volume 10 set? They couldn’t just save it for volume 13?
Perhaps Rhino could take a poll of episodes they “can” release, and put it in there instead, or just leave vol. 10 as history? What a bitch of a situation, I have 10.1, and now I have to get 10.2…
Cheepnis how is that an F-you response it seems pretty straight forward, There not planning any release.
But I sure do hope they do and individual release of gila monster or atleast include it on volume 13 with three other never before released episodes.
Diamond Joe,
From what information I have, I think Volume 9 may have been pulled because of WOMEN OF THE PREHISTORIC PLANET. Apparently Rhino licensed it from Krypton International, but research I’ve done suggests that Wade Williams owns it. That’s one possibility.
If they do not offer Gila as a single DvD or add it into a future new volume release then I’m done with buying the new volumes. I’ve bought all the past volumes as soon as they were released…but that ends should Rhino decide to force people to double dip.
Well, the response itself isn’t so much of an F-you as the whole attitude of, “we don’t care that you already spent $50 on 10.1. If you want Giant Gila Monster, you’ll shell out another $50 for 10.2 and only have the one new disc for your money” is an F-You.
Again, I’m glad they are re-releasing the original 3 titles and for those that never bought the set, everything is hunky-dory (except you don’t have the Rhino Godzilla Vs Megalon). For the rest of us, however, so far we are seeing nothing but a brush-off that appears to be greedy.
It would have been so simple; re-release Vol 10 with Eegah! as the 4th title (and discontinue the single DVD version) and then either release Giant Gila with Santa Claus as a new holiday Essentials II two-pack, or save it for release with Vol 13. This could have been so much easier and profitable for them without ticking off so many of their loyal customers.
Again, I’ll wait and see what they do… they may well come around and help us out, but why do they have to go through all this mud to get there? I’m beginning to think that they just don’t care.
This is a copy of the email that I got from Rhino
‘This boxed set is tentatively scheduled for a February 2008 release. There are no current plans for any single disc releases from this set, but thanks for your input. I’ll forward your letter to our suggestion box.
Dr. Rhino”
Not only is this greedy this is just pure BS because some of us DO OWN Volume 1 already. I think we should have a petition or something to force Rhino to make Giant Gila Monster (GGM) separate. They can make it separate just like their early releases. It cant be that hard to make sleeve art with a Gila Monster on the cover with Crow, Mike and Tom commenting.
I did email them about this saying they need to do the right thing for all of their fan base, & told them I would not like to purchase 10.2 because I own V. 10 already and do not need the same episodes twice. This is the worst kind of double dip out there, based on the cost of the double dip..IMO
That’s pretty much what I said in my letter too. I also told them that I own every MST3K title that Rhino put out, aside from Beginning of the End which was no longer available; both VHS and DVD.
I am happy that it is being rereleased for the fans that missed it originally, but I really don’t want to see this become a new trend. There were other solutions that could have been used to rerelease volume 10. They could have simply released it as a three DVD set, or replaced Godzilla vs. Megalon with one of the single DVDs already they already have rights to. And I know that in the latter scenario some people would probably end up having to buy one DVD they already have, but that is certainly better than three DVDs you already have.
Having said that I definitely want The Giant Gila Monster, but I honestly do not know if I am going to repurchase 3 DVDs I already have just to get it. Even if I do decide to purchase it I certainly won’t preordering or buying it anytime near the release date. Maybe I’ll purchase a used copy off Amazon a year from now, but that is as much as I can commit to. If they release it as a single I will buy it in a heartbeat though. I just hope and pray they work out a deal with the fans who purchased the original one when it came out that doesn’t involve mutilating the box as proof of purchase. I’ll reserve any harsh judgements for the moment and just wait and see.
I am hoping dr rhino (more like a quack) gets enough emails to make him decide to make GGM solo. I am sure his inbox is getting really full about now
As much as I love “Manos,” it will make me cry if they release it on DVD for the thrid time and not some other well-deserving feature.
I buy every mst3k set the day it comes for just this reason. I don’t pre-order but I do buy them the day they come out. This seems like another F-U to the fans much along the lines of the essentials. I hope they come to their senses at rhino/brians. Release shorts 3/santa claus conques the martians and gila monster as a set. I also agree with other who want the mexican Santa Claus too. That is one of my all time favorite mst3k eps and the movie itself is public domain. What’s the hold up?
I’d like to see Rhino secure the rights to another episode in order to get volume 9 back on the market (I agree that “Santa Claus” would be great), and then release that episode along with Giant Gila Monster in a 2 DVD set.
That said, I own volume 10.1 (I bought it a week before it got pulled), and have no intention of spending upwards of $60 for 10.2 in order to get my hands on only one episode that I don’t already own. If it comes to that, I’ll simply retain my VHS copy if GGM instead, thankyouverymuch.
Why in the world are people who already own Volume 9 & 10 endorsing Volume a 9.2 and a 10.2..
Why put a title we don’t own on a Volume that many of us do own ? Just for the sake of putting it back in print ?? For the sake of having a “.2″ Volume of DVD sets to be put in print again ? I dont think so !
I think thats kind of stupid..
Life is about moving forward and not backward. I don’t think MST3K fans who spent a lot of money on Volumes the first time they were in print should have to worry about re-releases with a new title in the Volume. That would mean any volume that is out of print, can go back into circulation with a new public domain title replacing one that is not, in the meanwhile we will either have to buy the set yet again for the sake of owning an authentic Rhino release that you cant get anywhere else or separately or simply refuse to own it. Sorry but I think its really insane, and I condemn Rhino for trying to force us to double dip for the sake of owning GGM and I hope this situation NEVER arises again
I want a Volume 13 with all new titles , not this 10.2 crap that they are pulling. I dont even want to think about a 9.2 option. Its not my fault some fans didn’t buy the sets when they first hit the market, and MST3K sets will all sooner or later go out of print due to rights issues. Why should people who own these Volumes have to go through this because some people didn’t get the sets when they readily available ?
The best solution is to make GGM a stand alone disc for people who do own Volume 10 and have a 10.2 for people who didn’t get Volume 10 while it was out there. I think that is the right thing to do for all fans of MST3K, and it caters to both the owners & non owners of Volume 10.
Sorry if the tone sounds harsh, but I am a little upset over the potential of owning 2 Volume 10s. I really am not into burning DVDs for myself as I want my discs to be real. 50-60 for a double dip is a heavy burden..
Simply because complaints to the video uberlords are best heard at the Rhinoiest possible place, allow me to post the orificial email addy again:
drrhino@rhino.com
Mail away, soldiers of fairness and justice!!
Curious that I haven’t seen anyone suggest the more prudent thing to do would be putting out a version of 10 at a lower price point that only had the three previously released episodes. This would not only not alienate early adopters, but would give people reticent to drop 50 bucks on a full volume a chance to sample the series (the singles are much less common in stores where I live).
F YOU RHINO!!!!!!!! IM NOT SHELLING OUT ANOTHER $40.00 TO $55.00 TO RE-PAY FOR 3 EPISODES THAT I ALREADY PAID FOR OVER A YEAR AGO!! IM JUST GOING TO BURN IT WITH NETFLIX. I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE NETFLIX AND ARE ABLE TO BURN IT FOR ME! CORPORATE SWINE RHINO!
LET’S HAVE GAMERA SIT ON THE RHINO AND SQUASH IT TO PIECE’S! IF THEY THINK OF DOING A 9.2 I’LL DO THE SAME THING. IM OUT!!!!!
Hehe.
You think they stickin Gila Monster in so the box art with the Dinosaur on it still makes a bit of sense? Oh good one, Rhino. 
I agree that this is a strange option and I’m still not sure if it’s the best one. But I, for one, will pick up 10.2 because I never got the original one. (I’m a fan, but since I have every unreleased episode from on-air recordings, they don’t feel essential to me.) I want it for the Joel, Trace and Josh material, mostly.
Do I think they need to release “Gila” separately? Yes. Do I think they will? Not so sure. One has to assume that the market for such a disc will be very small, limited only to those who own the original volume 10 and don’t want to have to buy three episodes they already own. Then again, we all bought “Essentials”, didn’t we?
Still, though the situation is far from perfect, I think people saying “F you” and that they will not buy another release are engaging in the classic “cutting off your nose to spite your face.” Rhino has to try to balance the needs of the fanbase, but they also have to look at the realities of the marketplace. The reality is that the individual DVDs did not sell well. The reality is also that people do not like to see volumes out-of-print. This must have seemed like the best solution to them. Switch out the episode, but add some valuable content to make it up to those who bought it already. (And it would have been Rhino who made this decision. Although BB is involved, it is Rhino who brings in people like Mike, the original actors, or, in this case the Cinematic Titanic guys. So you can’t read any Joel/BB stuff into that.)
What gets me from the “I’ve got volume 10″ crowd is that they seem perfectly okay with the three other episodes going out of print. And why shouldn’t they? They’ve got them. There seems to be a sense that as long as they are taken care of, the rest can go hang. Sure, there could be a better solution, but why should I feel bad that you are being put in a situation voluntarily (by choosing not to buy the new volume) that I am put in *involuntarily* (by the original going out-of-print before I grabbed it). I have volume 9, but if they put out a 9.2, I wouldn’t feel slighted. I’d simply evaluate the advantages and disadvantages and make my decision based on that, as anyone does with any purchase.
All that being said, by all means let Rhino know you want the individual release. It *is* the best solution and they haven’t said anything to confirm they *won’t* do it, just that it’s not *currently* in the works. If they get enough feedback to justify it, they will do it. But a word of advice: be civil. A bunch of screaming ninnies bitching and moaning will only make them decide that there’s no pleasing you and they won’t listen to you at all.
I feel like I am having a flashback….Joel VS. MIKE? I only know I like ( and miss ) MST3K!
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!!!
At least putting a sub-par ep like “Gila Monster” on this thing. It’s lame of them to not force people that own the original version to double-dip if they want “Gila Monster”, but it’s not another Essentials where they put a top-notch episode in with a repackage.
And man, without “Godzilla”, this set is going to give volume 3 a run for the weakest set.
Rhindle,
Firstly, I think most of the thoughtful responses from those of us Sneeches-with-the-stars-on included absolute praise that they were releasing the other three titles. I know I did.
Secondly, the single titles sold quite well, both VHS and DVD. The only proof one needs of that is that they then entered into a long-term agreement to sell more episodes as volumes. Had the singles flopped, we would have nothing else from Rhino. The reason for switching from singles to volumes has more to do with the fact that people had begun buying season box sets in general and were willing to shell out $50 at a time for TV shows. Also, the economies of a 4-disc bundle allow a higher per-disc profit margin, both from a packaging standpoint and in distribution overhead and logistics.
Thirdly, while a “bunch of screaming ninnies” may SEEM counter-productive (and in the case of interpersonal relationships, it is - ask my ex-wife), the truth of the matter is that the sqeaky wheel gets greased when it comes to corporate-bashing banshees. Rhino has demonstated at least twice before that they will respond to the shrieking, wailing, and gnashing of teeth from their fans without walking away. In the case of Killer Shrews, they replaced restored versions of the disc FREE to anybody who requested it - no proof of purchase required.
It’s up to both varieties of Sneeches, starred and un-starred, to make Rhino aware that this double-dipping is totally wrong in both principle and practice and we won’t stand for it!
Poopie!
(and you’re right - they never said that they wouldn’t take care of us - we just want to make sure that they do)
I can’t justify paying 40+ dollars for Giant Gila Monster… even though I love the episode.
I bought vol 10 when it came out, and I’m super loyal to the MST3K machine… but I REALLY need them to release this as a single disc!
I’m emailing Dr. Rhino too.
*That’s what cats are wearin’ nowadays!*
It’s amazing so many people are up in arms over this 10.2 thing?! Yes I have the original volume 10, and no I don’t mind spending the dough on 10.2 for “Gila”. Let’s face it, in a handful of years we are all gonna be buying the Blu-Ray/HD complete-series-in-one-box-set version again anyway.
Ha! I won’t be buying Blu-Ray/HD versions of any old TV show - it wouldn’t improve the quality one iota beyond what the original analog tape was like - and DVD captures that quality fully. Furthermore, you’ll never see an MST3K “complete-series-in-one-box-set version” simply because the rights to all non-public domain movies that were used have to be negotiated and those rights expire regularly. Some rights will NEVER be acquired (at least as long as Sandy Frank is alive and Tosho exists). I’m glad you have the money to buy every new version, but most of us don’t
@Cheepnis:
Re: box sets vs. individual.
I seem to have overtstated the sales point. (Writing too fast, I guess.) I didn’t mean to imply they weren’t selling, but that Rhino felt that they would sell much better in sets because, as you indicated, people are kind of used to that format for TV shows now. Regardless of the relative success of the individual discs, the bottom line is that the marketplace (meaning not you and me, but the average consumer) is more supportive of box sets than of individual releases.
Re: “squeaky wheels”
The difference with this and the “Shrews” incident is that in the former case, there was an actual error in the encoding of the disc. I think (since they were going to fix it for future pressings anyway) that they would have had some sort of replacement program in place eventually anyway.
I’m not saying don’t be forceful, but the phrase isn’t “the screaming asshole gets the grease”. I don’t think being rude will help convince the brass to put together what amounts to a completely new, separate, commercial release. So writing “F Rhino” here is fine, I would just suggest refraining from it in letters to Rhino themselves. (Which, as I said, I fully support.)
I agree with Cheepnis. Who wants to buy Blu/Ray or HD/DVD version’s of an old show that has movies from the 1930’s - 1960’s. Thats crazy! Besides I will always keep my regular DVD player and DVD’s for my over 150 episodes ( soon I will have all of the non-released episodes ) because the media in a DVD will last forever ( unlike VHS tapes ). Most of us don’t have the money to replace over or around 60 Rhino episodes on DVD to Blu/Ray or HD/DVD. If Rhino does come out with new box sets on Blu/Ray or HD/DVD I will buy it becuase eventually I will get a Blu/Ray or HD/DVD player for my HD TV. For the others that are alreay out I will continue to watch them on my 1080i-720p-420s converter DVD player.
Lets keep in mind that TONS of people missed their chance to buy 10.0
This is a good opportunity for them to purchase the other three episodes they are missing, plus Giant Gila Monster.
It’s sad that Rex Dart’s day in the sun is gone forever, but we’ve got to stop thinking that Rhino is somehow out to get us.
I’d say that Rhino’s leveling of “double dipping” is pretty darn low compared to the torrent of “unrated edition” discs that are flooding the market these days.
i agree totally.
Rhino rocks… they really came through when Killer shrews had its little “problem”
i just want an individual episode to save me some coin.
hopefully they’ll do that… but i understand that they are in the business to make money and it may not be cost effective.
just for the people that bought the 10.1 release.
Well, my email is quoted below. Not that I expect any Christmas miracles from Rhino, but…y’never know.
First off, let me state that I agree with and appreciate the gesture on the part of Rhino to re-release the MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 VOLUME 10 box set. I was fortunate enough to purchase the box set before it was recalled, and I truly felt for my friends who are fans who did not get a chance to purchase it when it first came out. I think that the re-release of the box set, as well as the continued releases in the pipeline, is a testament to the commitment of the part of Rhino to continue to provide the fans of this little puppet show with continual and quality releases of the show.
However, I would like to express my extreme displeasure at Rhino’s decision to replace the GODZILLA movie from the first VOLUME TEN box set with a movie that will only be available to the individuals who purchase what has been dubbed “Volume 10.2;” namely, THE GIANT GILA MONSTER. I find this choice, as well as the purposed notion that this disc will ONLY be available in this re-release, to be extremely insulting to the legions of fans who have supported Rhino financially through the years by purchasing in good faith the single-release VHS and DVD episodes, as well as the multi-pack VHS episodes as well as the DVD box sets.
To not make the GIANT GILA MONSTER DVD available either at a reduced price or for free (with a possible showing of proof of purchase) to the individuals who purchased the VOLUME TEN box set when it was initially released is, in my opinion, a disservice to the fans who purchased the box set in its first release expecting that we were getting THE release of VOLUME TEN. As you have undoubtedly learned through the years, many of the fans of MST3K are completists, and we strive to have all available episodes in our respective collections. To ask us to purchase a DVD set that we already own ¾ of simply to own this one other disc could potentially cause more damage to the reputation of Rhino among the fans of MST3K (who are incredibly passionate) than the good caused by the re-release of VOLUME TEN.
Please, I urge you to reconsider Rhino’s stance on the availability of THE GIANT GILA MONSTER on DVD to the individuals who purchased VOLUME TEN during its initial release.
Sincerely,
-Sonny Lemmons
It’s not that bloody hard for them to press extra copies of the disc, set up a credi card (or PayPal) link from the Rhino store. and sell it for $15-20 in a paper sleeve. I’d buy it in a heartbeat and you get a win-win situation. Right now, all Rhino is doing is pissing us — the people who actually buy each of these sets when they come out — off.
There’s no reason in the world they can’t have a Gila single disc available for a limited time at a reasonable price to hardcore fans who bought Vol. 10 initially. They put it in a white sleeve and send it to us and make a few extra bucks profit from it. It’s sound business sense so I think they’ll do it. Email them!
Rhindle,
The “Shrews Incident” was not caused by flawed encoding or mastering. They purposely edited out the opening monologue of the movie, including a few riffs, presumably to save time/space on the disc. This was no “accident of manufacturing” and the fans were justifiably riled up about this revisionism.
The “Dead Talk Back” issue, on the other hand was not to be blamed on Rhino. They encoded from the master tape as provided by Jim Mallon. The fans were upset that Jim’s master wasn’t even as good as most fan copies and they wished that Jim/Rhino had tracked-down a copy without the many flaws that are now set in circular “stone”.
I never encouraged anybody to be rude or obscene in their communique with Rhino. I only asked that they expressed their displeasure. I was simply saying that IMO, The Rhinos will be more responsive to more letters rather than fewer, regardless of their tone or overexpletivosityness.
BTW, Sonny, nice letter!
HERE’s the response from Rhino i got today.. .
just FYI
This boxed set is tentatively scheduled for a February 2008 release. There are no current plans for any single disc releases from this set, but thanks for your input. I’ll forward your letter to our suggestion box.
Dr. Rhino
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it was a quick turnaround on a response and it was honestly all i was hoping for… just to bring it to their attention.
i think they understand.
For those of you who got the Dr. Rhino response, you shouldn’t panic about that because it’s a token response that “Dr. Rhino” (if THAT is his real name) when a question or suggestion is made that Rhino has no official press-release about.
I got a similar response years ago back when Rhino was releasing Transformers cartoons on DVD. I had asked when the next volume of Transformers: Armada (Which was a good year or two after the first volume) and I got the same response.
I wouldn’t get all reactionary on the comments because that’s probably a pre-written response until they make an official comment about it.
Honestly, I think since they have so much trouble getting the rights, or maintaining the rights to the movies in MST3K episodes they really should just go back to releasing individual episodes separately and go back to the “bundles” they used to do when the episodes were out on VHS back in the day. It’d be easy to release a “box set” of four movies in slim cases or something, and if in the event the rights to a movie is pulled, you pull off the cellophane and sell the ones that are still good separately.
Needless to say, if we all e-mail Rhino and tell them how we feel I’m sure they’ll make some sort of initiative for those of us who got the original box set.
@ Cheepnis:
“The “Shrews Incident” was not caused by flawed encoding or mastering.”
“To-may-to”/”To-mah-to”. Accidental or from a bone-headed move, it was still something that was going to inevitably be fixed because it was obviously wrong. That is not the case here.
“I never encouraged anybody to be rude or obscene in their communique with Rhino.”
And I never said everyone was going to be. But when I hear a straightforward form-letter response (that doesn’t really say anything of substance, mind you) called an “F-you from Rhino” and I see people swearing they are going to quit buying *any* MST3K DVDs over this, they are crossing a line that I think hurts rather than helps.
“I was simply saying that IMO, The Rhinos will be more responsive to more letters rather than fewer, regardless of their tone or overexpletivosityness.”
And, IMO, if they get a few well worded letters and a thousand screaming ninnies, they *will* say “F-you”, go ahead with their plans and that will be that. I agree that everyone interested should write, but I don’t agree that their tone won’t matter.
“BTW, Sonny, nice letter!”
Yes, that’s a well phrased comment. Of course, I don’t think it’s realistic (or fair) to suggest sending the “Gila” disc to people who own “Volume 10.1″ for free. I think the going rate for a single episode release is fair, as that’s what you’re getting. (Less if it’s just in an empty sleeve. Although why you’d want it without a proper case, I don’t know.)
Despite my hardcore fan-ness, I seriously doubt I will waste money on a set I already own 3 of the 4 discs.
As others have said, this is ‘The Essentials’ all over again. You would think they might have learned from that. Their main customer base, a.k.a. hardcore fans, already owned Manos on DVD when they re-released it with SCCTM and it hurt their sales of that set. The same will happen here. I don’t blame them for trying to keep the 3 properties they still have rights to in circulation, but as mentioned before, they could have packaged it with something available in a single disc version (like Mitchell or one of the shorts discs) to spare fans that already owned 10.0 from having to skip out on yet another title.
I don’t own SCCTM on Rhino DVD and I won’t pay for The Giant Gila Monster on Rhino DVD. I normally replace all my bootleg copies with Rhino copies as they’re made available, but I won’t be fleeced.
“For those of you who got the Dr. Rhino response, you shouldn’t panic about that because it’s a token response that “Dr. Rhino” (if THAT is his real name) when a question or suggestion is made that Rhino has no official press-release about.”
What he said. Nothing is decided. Let Dr. Rhino know how you feel POLITELY and hope for the best.
And, a reminder, let’s keep it PG-rated and courteous in the comments. Thanks.
If they don’t decide to give the Gila disc to people for free (which they probably won’t), i certainly hope we can buy it for a few bucks. That way, Rhino makes some money off the people who already bought it AND from the people who didn’t and we, the lucky consumers, get the epsiode. Seems like a win-win to me.
Grumble! While I understand the need to put something in there to make it worth its price–well, since the set is MOSTLY OOP–come on Rhino, cut us some slack here. I mean, we are the ones who bought this stuff when it comes out first. Why should we be slammed for that?
Why not put out Gila Monster in an Essentials Collection along with Beginning of the End and Amazing Colossal Man? Then everybody can be happy.
I’d pay $10 to get Gila Monster in a sleeve. They should just sell the other 3 as singles on Rhino.com, put Gila in set 13 and include a paper advertisement mentioning you can buy the other 3 on their website. Then send the set 10 leftovers out in paper sleeves.
If there’s anyone interested in knowing what MST3k episodes are likely to be released then check this list I’ve made:
http://forrestcrow.proboards47.com/index.cgi?board=mstchat&action=display&thread=1152828151
It seems to me like there’s a really obvious way to solve this. I’m going to send this suggestion to Dr. Rhino but I thought I’d also run it by you guys.
Simply pack in a rebate form with 10.2. Fill out the rebate, attach a proof-of-purchase from 10.1 plus your receipt and proof-of-purchase for 10.2 and you receive a check for 3/4 of the MSRP for 10.2. This seems astoundingly simple to me.
Keir,
I don’t think Rhino would go for rebating 3/4 of the price, since that would mean they’d be basically giving away three free DVDs to each person who got the rebate. But it wouldn’t hurt to run it by them.
Erhardt,
Considering that those who already own 10.1 have 3/4 of this new set, I think a rebate for 3/4 of the price is entirely reasonable.
Remember that when you buy any entertainment media, the medium it comes on is an extremely small secondary cost. Theoretically, the vast majority of your purchase price is going toward the license to view the entertainment. I don’t know about you, but I refuse to pay again for a license I already own.
Diamond Joe said:
“What would make more sense would be a special offer, made through sites like this, mst3k.com, and rhino.com, in which you could pay $10 or $12, and get the Gila disc in an envelope. Rhino could make a profit on the deal, and presumably only people who already have 10.1 would bother to seek it out.”
I picked up V-10 the day it was released, and while I’m not happy about having to pay for 3 episodes *I already bought from Rhino*, I would much rather buy 10.2 than get a loose disc in an envelope from Rhino. But that’s just me; I’m a completist.
10.2 will almost certainly have new cover art. And that, along with the bonus features (and, of course, the fact that I haven’t seen “Giant Gila Monster”) is reason enough for me to blow $50 on it. But, as someone wisely pointed out on the MST3K Boards, I just wish Rhino had saved “Gila Monster” for V-13 and re-released V-10 as a 3-disc set.
Keir,
It may be reasonable. But it doesn’t make good business sense to give away three DVDs, especially when Rhino has the option to sell the new one as a stand-alone. Which, I’ll remind everyone, is still a possibility. I just don’t see Rhino offering a 3/4 rebate.
Erhardt,
I really don’t see much possibility for lost profit. I can only think of a few options for what to do with those extra discs:
1) Sell them on eBay. Yeah, sure, a few people will do that and they’ll probably manage to find some suckers to take them up on the offer. Not many though, I’m guessing. Besides, by their own admission very few sets sold before they went OOP, so there aren’t many discs out there to be auctioned off.
2) Give the discs to friends who haven’t seen the show. Wow, how terrible for Rhino if people who have never seen it end up liking it and going out and buying the other DVDs (including this new set since they’ll only have three out of the four discs from it).
3) Give the discs to a friend who likes the show. That will be pretty darn rare I’d imagine. What self respecting fan wants only part of a set?
On the other hand, screwing over the fans by not offering a fair deal like the one I mentioned is a sure way to lose profit (from me at least, and judging by the comments, from some of the other folks around here too). I can guarantee that if they do this I won’t be buying this set, nor any others from Rhino ever again. Sorry, but sending a clear signal that you don’t want to earn my money legitimately means that I no longer feel much desire to give it to you.
Releasing GGM as a single DVD makes a lot more sense than refunding people 3/4 of the box set price. I also think asking Rhino to give those of us with 10.1 GGM for free is ridiculous. The easiest solution, and the best long-term business decision for Rhino, is to make GGM available for purchase as a single disc. Hopefully if they receive enough feedback they’ll do that.
I knew this would happen eventually but I wasn’t sure if they were going to replace it with something they had already released or a new episode. I recommend selling the original volume 10 on ebay. Make a hundred bucks and use that to buy this new set. You’ll have to give up Megalon, but according to Toho you don’t have it legally in the first place. What they should do for the box art is tape the Giant Gila Monster’s face over the dinosaur’s.
A couple people have asked about the problem with volume 9 and it’s probably Women of the Prehistoric Planet (which i think is a similar situation to Megalon in that the company whom Rhino was dealing with didn’t really have the rights to it). What they should do is replace it with Slime People, which they own, and release Giant Gila Monster together with Slime People and call it the early adopter set.
The real problem with giving out a rebate of 3/4 the MSRP is that Rhino doesn’t actually get paid the MSRP for the box sets, unless you buy them direct from Rhino. If you buy the set at a store for $60.00, chances are Rhino only got about $30.00 for the set. But rebates come from the manufacturer, not the retailer. So Rhino would have to refund the buyer $45.00, despite only receiving $30.00. They’d be better off, cost-wise,just giving the 4th disc away for free.
Time to move on. If you are one of the lucky ones like myself who has the original set…good. If not, I guess that will teach you to pre-order
Why deal with a .2 release, lets just move on to #13 and put all actual, OOP and proposed volume 10’s to bed.
jazzbo,
Yeah, I thought about that. I’d be fine with them offering a rebate of 3/4 of actual purchase price, but I’ve only rarely (if ever) seen a manufacturer do a rebate based around a non-specific amount. Plus it leaves them open to a greater chance of fraud by the jerk who decides to alter their receipt.
I’m guessing a single disc release is extremely unlikely for similar cost reasons to what you brought up. To do a single release they would need to create box art, ship them to the stores, and secure shelf space. All of that costs money on a disc that has fairly limited appeal to only those who got 10.1. Worse, there’s a chance of people who don’t know the story picking up the single and then finding out that it’s available in the set and they get a repeat of the negative publicity from Manos.
The only option besides a rebate that makes sense is for people to send in a proof-of-purchase from 10.1 plus, say, $15 and a couple of bucks for shipping and getting a disc in an envelope. Either that or the rebate would be fine by me, but they need to do something. I’m not paying a second time for what I already own.
It would be one thing if they had recalled it, then you could have gotten your money back and spent it on the new set. You wouldn’t have Godzilla and there would have been plenty of people who didn’t return there copies, but they wouldn’t be able to complain when they had their chance to send it back. I never heard about a recall though, they just removed it from store shelves. That ship has sailed and now they need to do right by their customers.
I hate to say it, but Rhino don’t need to “do right” by nobody. They can release this, and fans will buy it, because fans want the shows on DVD. Sure, maybe 5% of people won’t buy it on principle, but overall, the people who would shell out the money on this are going to do so. I doubt Rhino stands to lose much in the short OR long run on this.
anyway, netflix/blockbuster/etc. will probably get the 10.2 and everyone who wants the gila monster episode can avail themselves of such services…
Sir Charles said, “…What they should do for the box art is tape the Giant Gila Monster’s face over the dinosaur’s.”
Ha! Cute idea.
I wrote Rhino over 2 hours ago, but they haven’t written me back yet. This is the correct email address, right: drrhino@rhino.com?
Here’s what I wrote:
“Good afternoon,
I’d like to start off by sincerely thanking everyone at Rhino for your dedication to MST3K. It isn’t an easy show to release onto DVD and as a hardcore MSTie, you’ll always have my gratitude. I own everything MST3K-related that you’ve released (the single DVDs, ‘The Essentials’ and volumes 1-12). It’s a little ritual of mine to pick up the newest volumes the (Tues)day they’re released.
Anyhow, my copy of V-10 is in perfect condition and I’m kind of bummed out that I’ll have to spend $50 on 10.2, when I already own 3 of the episodes on it. But when it comes to MST3K, I’m a completist…and in all honesty, I probably won’t hesitate to pick it up the day it’s released, if it’s the *only* way you’re releasing “Giant Gila Monster” (an episode I haven’t seen). I just hope 10.2 has totally different cover art from V-10. I’m all about some good artwork. And I feel that making 10.2 visually distinct from V-10 is a good idea. By the way, shouldn’t it technically be “Volume 10.1″ or maybe “Volume 10 1/2″? Just wonderin’.
On behalf of those who weren’t able to pick up V-10, I’m thankful that you’re re-releasing it. But there are many loyal fans, like myself, who *already own* V-10…some of whom paid upwards of $100 for it, after it went out of print. I’m not as worried about this as some are, but to be honest, I think it would’ve been more auspicious to just release 10.2 as a 3-disk set…or maybe throw “The Brain That Wouldn’t Die”, “The Wild Wild World of Batwoman”, “Red Zone Cuba”, “Mitchell”, “I Accuse My Parents” or “Eegah” on it and discontinue the original, single-DVD release.
Finally, I have a quick, unrelated suggestion. Well, first, a compliment. Your DVD menus have been getting better & better. Keep up the good work! And some of the artwork on V-12 is great…particularly on the inside. The only (glaring) problem is with the cover, itself: Crow’s legs are missing…which makes him look very, very strange. He has seen better days. So I hope you’ll include his lower torso if/when he’s featured on the packaging or the disks of future volumes.
Thanks for your time.”
Heh. I just re-read that last paragraph of mine and realized how truly fanboy-ish it sounds.
On the off chance any one from Rhino is reading this, put me down as one more vote for “Giant Gila Monster” also being released as either a single DVD or paired with something else in an Essentials 2 set.
Rhino really pissed me off about this. I am hoping that their brains will eventually function & figure out that some people own V10 and would rather have GGM as a single
Someone want to email DrRhino this message board to see what people think ?
I certainly hope that Rhino does the right thing by the fans who purchased 10.1. I’ve faithfully purchased all the dvd releases as they’ve come out and I’m a little annoyed at the ‘non-answer’ answer from Rhino.
It reminds me of something Fox Home Video did with the release of MASH when they put the 11th season out on DVD. Many fans had been purchasing the season sets as they were released. With the release of the last set, Fox was also released a complete box of the show which included many extra features not available on the individual sets.
Needless to say the fans (like myself) were not too happy when it was announced that the extras were going to be available on the box set only and that there were no plans to release them any other way. Fans complained quite vocally about how they were getting screwed despite the fact they had supported the show by purchasing the individual sets.
Eventually Fox released the extras along with the final episode of the show. A bit of double dipping on the part of Fox since the fans already had that episode when the bought the last set.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Rhino issued “Essentials Volume 2″ at some point not too long after the release of Volume 10.2. It’ll probably be something already on one of the boxed sets instead of something new or even something released on the early single disc issues.
“I recommend selling the original volume 10 on ebay.”
Heh, nice try, Chim Chim. Your jedi mind trick won’t work on us.
Seriously, if there is one thing I cannot stand, it’s double dipping with DVDs. How many freaking times have we shelled out money for an initial release, and then have the powers that be release “Special Editions”, followed by “Extended Director’s Cut”. I mean, come on, they have the material, just release it with the others.
Rhino is double dipping, plain and simple. I have the original release. As someone stated earlier, perhaps that will teach the people that call themselves “real fans” to jump on the opportunity to purchase them when they are released.
I am not going to give my hard earned $60 for one disc. I don’t care if the package is different. To spend money on that is ridiculous. I agree with others that say just release it as Vol. 13. You can still find plenty of copies, with Godzilla vs. Megalon, on eBay. This is greed, plain and simple.
And now I want to retract a portion of my last post regarding eBay. Just checked it out and there Vol. 10 editions available….for $200 plus dollars!!!!!
GREED IS RAMPANT EVERYWHERE!!!!
I hear that about greed. I had to get my copy of volume 10 off of eBay because it was pulled off the shelf so fast (that’s what I got for not having it on pre-order like I always do now). Ended up paying $80 for mine. When I looked back on the v10 listings just a week later out of curiosity, it was already up to $120+!!!
Is the replacement program for Killer Shrews still active? If so, where?
Shrewed: email drrhino@rhino.com and ask them.
Rhino is a good company. Whenever they packaged an MST3K episode with a few seconds missing they allowed fans to get a replacement disc for no cost. I’m sure they’ll have a deal set up for the additional episode.
I guess all we can do is wait. But, I still don’t think it’s unreasonable for us to want Rhino make a single disc available for purchase;even if it’s just done on the side and packaged in a simple DVD sleeve.
The promlem was their was a rights issues with one of the included films, Godzilla vs. Megalon!
That’s why Rhino Home Video pulled it out.
Back in 2003, GoodTimes(US Distributor) went bankrupt! No company own’s the rights of the movie.
I have volume 10.1 and volume 9 so I hope that they release Gila seperatley. I don’t know why so many people had a hard time getting volume 10.1, I bought it at Best Buy a few days after it was released and they had plenty in stock, it seems to me I had it for quite a while before it was yanked as well. It probabley has to do with what part of the country you live in.
I’ve been waiting for Giant Gila Monster forever. Gotta love those “Renaissance Festival punching bags”. It’s an all-around terrific episode! However, I definitely would rather not have to buy the whole rest of Volume 10 again just to get it, nor would I like to buy Manos Hands of Fate for a third time to get it.
I’ve never understood why the Giant Gila Monster episode of MST3K wasn’t one that was previously released by Rhino. Didn’t Rhino publish an “un-MST-ed” version of the movie a few years back? It’s currently just a bargain title from Alpha video. Isn’t this movie either public domain or one for which the rights are relatively cheap?
I’d say it’s highly likely Rhino does indeed have the rights. For example, Vol. 8 contained the film THE DEAD TALK BACK. The print they used for the DVD had some pixelating (sp?) errors. They acknowledged the flaws, but said if they had substituted another film, they would have had to go through more rights issues. PS. Here’s the Alpha video DVD.
http://www.digitalmonsterisland.com/g_vs_megalon_alpha.html
I just got this from Rhino!
Dear MST3K Fan,
Thanks for your email. We will be selling The Giant Gila Monster, in the future, as a single disc through the Rhino site, for a limited time only. I have no other information available at this time. Please stay tuned to http://www.rhino.com for any developments.
Dr. Rhino
Woot!
ReaperRon
Dear MST3K Fan,
This is what I got when I emailed and whined about not getting Giant Gila Monster. Maybe our emails are having an effect.
Thanks for your email. We will be selling The Giant Gila Monster, in the future, as a single disc through the Rhino site, for a limited time only. I have no other information available at this time. Please stay tuned to http://www.rhino.com for any developments.
Dr. Rhino
I’m looking forward to purchasing Volume 10.2,I was not able to get volume 10,so obviously I am really looking forward to getting the next Rhino MST3K DVD.Everyones complaining about how they have to buy it all over again,don’t they understand how some people didn’t get to buy it?
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