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Felicia Day to Be the New Mad; Hampton Yount and Baron Vaughn to Voice the Bots
Joel has posted another update. The big news is the announcement that Felicia Day will play the new Mad, Dr. Forrester’s daughter, and that comedians Hampton Yount and Baron Vaughn will provide the voices of Crow and Tom Servo, respectively. Read the whole thing! 86 Replies to “Felicia Day to Be the New Mad; Hampton Yount and Baron Vaughn to Voice the Bots”Commenting at Satellite News
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Joel said they were shooting the Turkey Day videos last Friday (ie days ago, not weeks ago). Not sure about the rest.
Joel suggested there might be some newer movies in the mix. I’m actually fine with that — I think Future War, Final Sacrifice, Soultaker, and Werewolf are all great episodes, and those movies are all from the 1990’s.
But I’d love to see some of the old standard B&W 1950’s monster movies, too.
Obviously with only 3 episodes it’s going to be tough to get a lot of variety; it looks like they’ll get up to 6 so that might make for a better range of films.
I don’t know who any of these people are, but I still felt pretty good about the reveal. I’m sure Dr. Forrester grew his daughter in a lab, but stranger things have happened. This means that Pearl really is a grandma. The new Crow and Servo sounded fine so far. The real test will be in the host segments.
So many cool new people to watch, and so many things to read WAY too much into!!
So, Kinga is Dr. F’s daughter. She kind of came on to Jonah at the end, so let’s go “Star Wars” and say that Jonah is also Dr. F’s offspring! Or, we could go “Romeo and Juliet” which means Jonah would be either Mike or Joel’s descendant. Or “X-files” and endure unbearable sexual tension between two characters who will NEVER end up together and then have it be really weird when they do! Also, how do Tom and Crow (last living with Mike) get hooked with Jonah? Why? KTMA episodes?! Trending towards $5.9M?! Riff “Yor”!!!
I need to open that T-day wine early!
I checked out Hampton and Baron last night on ytube an I think Joel is so spot on. Baron has hot a pretty good singing voice, and Hampton well he’s crazy. Their comedic timing is good as well. And miss Day, well shoot she’s a shoe in!
So far I’m very pleased to be a backer, and can’t wait to see however many episodes we get(hopefully 12 +) !! Can’t wait to see the sets next year, although the S.O.L. Crashed landed back on earth so I guess she’s out???? And magic voice, hmm maybe she’ll be back. But doesn’t Gyspy have Gyspy Co. ? So not too sure about her bot.
Joel said something about fusing the old with the new in one vid, so. I think a fresh take on our beloved show is a good shot in the arm !!.
Or we could go Star Wars: Force Awakens, and get into a big fanboy fight over whether Kinga is secretly taking orders from a now evil Joel, returning after ten years, or whether, believing herself to be Dr. F’s daughter, she turns out to be actually Joel’s daughter trained by Pearl to destroy all his good work!
Hey there! Octopussy is easily one of the better Roger 007 movies compared to others of his (I’m looking at you, The Man With Golden Gun and A View To Kill. I’m also giving a sidelong glance at you, Live and Let Die and the last third of Moonraker.) and Star Trek VI was actually quite good, but then any of the Nick Meyer influenced Treks are tops in my book.
I get what you’re saying with the new cast, but continuity is important too. Some of the best shows had regular to semi-regular casts: The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Bob Newhart Show, Seinfeld, NCIS, The Rockford Files, Magnum P.I., Simon and Simon, Arrested Development, Cheers, Frasier, Friends, Big Bang Theory, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, How I Married Your Mother, Star Trek series, The Larry Sanders Show, Curb Your Enthusiasm, etc.
Even shows that had significant cast turnovers such as Law and Order, ER, MASH, or CSI or even MST3k still had some longtime cast members that stuck around if not from the beginning than for most of the run, so there was continuity. Now all those shows aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but I think the only shows that had some sort of success with massive turnovers of casts were Dr. Who, soap operas that have been running for 50 years, and ensemble shows like Saturday Night Live. Granted Star Trek and Dr. Who fans would be able to relate to having a huge chunk of time between show airings like we’re seeing here with the MST reboot.
I’m just curious as to who is going to be writing the new MST. Has it been mentioned that the new cast is also going to be writing the riffs as well? If so, I’ve missed that. But if that has not been said, I hope we can hear about the new writing staff. Because I cannot imagine Joel will bear the brunt of writing this alone because that would be way too much for any sole writer.
I’m still going to hope that Frank is that shadow waiting to be filled. That would give me some comfort and some continuity with the old show beyond saying people are relatives of older characters and here are some familiar looking puppets. Even if he’s back just in a writing capacity and is back to selecting movies for the experiments would make me more than pleased. I’m with those that are enthusiastic, but guarded. I’ve always loved this show and I just don’t want it to be embarrassing.
I wasn’t necessarily picking on the quality of the movies, but more on the age of the cast. Even by the time you get to Star Trek IV you’re already thinking “These guys are still in charge of flying spaceships around the galaxy? Scotty couldn’t fit through the airlock!” And Moore creeping on Tonya Roberts in “View to a Kill” yeesh!
I get what you’re saying with the new cast, but continuity is important too.Some of the best shows had regular to semi-regular casts: The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Bob Newhart Show, Seinfeld, NCIS, The Rockford Files, Magnum P.I., Simon and Simon, Arrested Development, Cheers, Frasier, Friends, Big Bang Theory, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, How I Married Your Mother, Star Trek series, The Larry Sanders Show, Curb Your Enthusiasm, etc.
Even shows that had significant cast turnovers such as Law and Order, ER, MASH, or CSI or even MST3k still had some longtime cast members that stuck around if not from the beginning than for most of the run, so there was continuity.Now all those shows aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but I think the only shows that had some sort of success with massive turnovers of casts were Dr. Who, soap operas that have been running for 50 years, and ensemble shows like Saturday Night Live.Granted Star Trek and Dr. Who fans would be able to relate to having a huge chunk of time between show airings like we’re seeing here with the MST reboot.
I am just making an assumption here. Most of these guys are stand-ups, which means that they write (and tell) jokes for a living. Part of how they were able to keep costs down on the original show was that the writers and the performers were (mostly) the same group. Now at one point Joel mentioned that the writers for the show could be scattered across the country – which is what made me think he might bring back the some of the original cast to write the show, but I was also presuming that much of the cast would also be writers – except perhaps Ms. Day, who though she has written books isn’t really a comedy writer that I am aware of.
I wouldn’t mind Frank coming back for a stint as TV’s Frank, but I’m with you in really hoping Coniff brings his voice to the show as a writer.
I hope the writing team has at least five people.
Do you have to have a trendy country club name to be in the new cast? Maybe if Mike changed his name to “Connor” or “Manhattan” they would let him back in.
When Joel says, “Hey, sure, it seems like a great time to…” my iPhone thinks he’s saying “Hey, Siri.” Kinda freaked me out the first time.
Hampton has already won me over as Crow. But when all three of them are silhouetted, I have trouble telling who is speaking. I’m sure that will change in time, though. Looking forward to see if Joel can capture lightning twice.
The only problem I have right now with the new voices is that Tom’s sounds a bit too much like Crow in tone. Crow sounds a lot like Trace’s Crow, which is fine, but it’s hard to distinguish Tom from Crow when there’s a lot going on.
The new henchman is not Frank.
It is none other than <failed script error
There IS a rumor that Cambot has been upgraded with voice capabilities. The voice will show up only very rarely, but when it does, those voice spots will be by none other than Stephen Hawking. Anyone who immediately dismisses this as a possibility has not seen what he did with Big Bang Theory.
Whatever the case, children, we appear to be on a swiftly tilting planet!
I think that is a better idea than what Joel is going with. If this reboot goes, the show would have 3 male hosts in a row and two female lead Mads in a row. A female host would have been a nice change up with either a male or female Mad. It seems Joel is trying to match the setup the show ended with for better fan appeal and donations, playing it safe rather than do something new and different like many reboots.
I also agree that the new Tom and Crow sound too much alike, Johna’s performance in the videos isn’t very good nor was Felicia’s. The little skit about Joel selling his rights to Kinga was very cringe worthy, even Joel’s performance was poor. I wish Joel luck but there is no going back to the good old days of MST3K.
Oh and Octopussy is an awlful Bond film, just pure awlful, its so bad it does not exist, so what were we talking about?
I completely disagree with that sentiment that MST3K has to evolve as a show. One of the greatest things in my opinion is that they didn’t try to explore different angles for characters, that they didn’t try to do back stories for every thing in existence. They simply had fun and relax. Now I’m not saying that a female host (or even a black host for that matter) isn’t a bad thing if they are the best person for the job but simply having them because “it’s 2015 we need change” is not a reason.
In a show like MST3K what difference is that going to make to the show? Why is having another male a bad thing? If 90% of the show is about riffing what difference does the sex of the host really make? None and it shouldn’t at all because in the end MST3K was about having fun not anything profound or dramatic story lines or any other BS.
Also I haven’t seen any compelling reason with this line of thinking. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be done, doing something just for the sake of doing it doesn’t make any sense. In other words explain to me how the show is funnier.
Here’s a thought for the Kickstarter: If you donate enough you can play Magic Voice!
So far I am quite happy with everything I have been hearing. I have pledged $100.00 and hope they reach the goal of 12 episodes. If I had enough money I would have gone for the $6000.00 to get an obscure in-joke into an episode.
I’m betting this will be tossed off in a couple of lines of dialogue, much like how the first Sci-Fi episode explained Crow’s new voice and demeanor and Pearl taking over Clayton’s experiment. Those are questions that the fans are going to want answered, but you don’t want to spend too much time explaining how things got from the old series to the current series. (That was probably the biggest mistake the 1996 Doctor Who TV movie made: while fans were pleased to see Sylvester McCoy back to regenerate into the new Doctor, it was a pretty terrible way to get new fans onboard.)
(Well, okay, the biggest mistake the 1996 Doctor Who TV movie made was airing opposite the last episode of Roseanne. But the regeneration plot is probably the second-biggest.)
Also, Joel mentioned in that starwars.com interview that he wants to shorten the opening host segments and get J&tB into the theater quicker. So all the more reason we shouldn’t expect a lot of in-depth explanation at the beginning of 1101.
…man, how are we going to distinguish between Joel and Jonah when we say “J&tB”, anyway? We could use their initials — JH&tB and JR&tB, but, well, you can probably see the problem THAT creates.
I just have to say that the familiar J&tb(&J) “aaaaahhhh!” when Kinga opens the doors was a nice touch. (I’ve always loved it when they did that–my favorite one is probably in Hired! Pt. 2 when the old man puts the hankie on his head.) I think (and hope) we’ll get lots of little nods/callbacks like that as they move forward…
Because it is a reiteration of the SCi Fi era of MST3K, only not set up as well. Granted these are just little preview clips and the final product would hopefully be executed better. We have a identical dynamic of a beta male host and a alpha female Mad as what was on Sci Fi. They were not afraid before to change from a male host, male mad to male host female mad dynamic, it is clear Joel is playing it safe by carbon copying the Sci Fi era rather than being a bit more original with his reboot. This isn’t about being PC or 2015, or any other strawmen you can come up with, it is about staying fresh and not go stale, or starting out stale. Even the old MST3K did envolve because of behind the scenes changes, often coping with these changes fairly well in a laid back way and keeping up with the times. One of MST3K’s greatest assets was its originality and accepting change which sadly seems diminished so far in this version. The jokes, lines, and skits are lack luster, much like how Rifftrax is going stale. As another poster said, this is shaping up to look like the new Monkiees, hopefully I am wrong about that.
You still haven’t explained how that is originality or is going to make it better. MST3K starting from about seasons 2 didn’t really evolve at all from a show perspective. Yes things were added and other things were dropped but the show itself was pretty much non evolving as far as the over all show goes. There were subtle changes as new people came on and brought their own brand of humor to the show. Again I’ve stated before just changing things up because you think that is stale is an opinion.
There is nothing in having a different sex host that means is going to be better or more original because of it. Again if that person is the best person for the job then I’m totally fine with it but let’s face it there are only so many host/mads configurations we can have anyway so what if they go through them all? I mean were people just completely put off when Mike entered the show because he was another white male comedian and so was Joel?
As for your opinion on Rifftrax going stale that is your opinion and not fact. I just recently bought one of the new releases of Rifftrax Nat Geo episodes and it is hilarious as ever.
Again you’ve never stated exactly how the show is going be “super uber fresh omg PC 2015” with having a female host. How exactly is that going to change the dynamics to keep things fresh when 90% of the show is riffing movies? You see how you completely side stepped that comment before. I mean I have my own reservations about the shows casting and writing and I hope they can strike a balance between old school MST3K feeling and the internet pop culture but having another male host is literally not a concern of mine and I don’t understand how fans of the original show could possible think that it matters.
Dude, the Sci-Fi era recast one of the three leads and promoted its second-billed villain to top-billed villain. This show has an entirely new cast. It requires some serious mental gymnastics to suggest that the former was some kind of crazy outside-the-box thinking and the latter represents stagnation and fear of change.
(Also, introducing the first non-white cast member is kinda significant, isn’t it?)
Diversity’s a perfectly worthwhile thing to strive for and a new female host could make for an interesting dynamic. I don’t agree with Retcon’s assessment that the new cast represents stagnation or a lack of originality, but I’m not a fan of dismissing calls for diversity by putting the letters “PC” in scare quotes, either.
There are a lot of women who I think would do a fine job as the host of MST3K. I think Felicia Day is one of them, but I also think casting her as a villain is more interesting; I’ve wanted to see her play a villain since Dr. Horrible. And, despite Retcon’s suggestion that she’s a carbon copy of Pearl, she seems a much different character, at least from the little we’ve seen so far.
It seems like there’s something for everybody to be happy about here — it sounds like Retcon wants a more diverse show, and it sounds like you’re more interested in the brass tacks of the formula staying the same. And, well, it looks like they’re keeping the formula and using a more diverse cast than the show’s ever had. So it’s hard for me to see why both of you seem unhappy about it.
Why did you even bring up all this pc nonsense for, I wasn’t even talking about 2015 pc crap until you brought it up to build a strawman argument to attack. Here you bringing it up again, why are you so hung up about being pc for? As you are the one who keeps bringing it up dude. Don’t have anything better to talk about?
I just see a male host female mad as a rehash, using identical gags the Sci films era used with this dynamic in just the preview clips. As I said, the actors Joel choose, regardless of their gender weren’t funny.
Also you are in self denial that MST3K didn’t evolve, sorry but it did, from characters, elements, cast, sets, story lines, and even the riffing style evolved with each season, to even suggest it didn’t is laughable.
Rifftrax is still doing well with their live shows but their studio riffs are stale. They rely too much on callbacks to older riffs,Internet memes, and overly long story riffs.
Also never said the Sci films era casting of Pearl to be the head mad was out of the box, that is just another strawman you guys created to attack. Can’t you at least debate the actual argument instead of creating a false weaker version to argue over? However it was original change from the first setup with 3 mads, two male assistants and a female lead mad when they could have gone with something like Clay ‘ s great great etc grandson.
Retcon, my use of the phrase “outside the box” when you used the word “original” is not a strawman, it’s a paraphrase. “Outside the box” and “original” mean the same thing. A strawman argument is when someone accuses you of making a claim you never made, not when someone responds to a claim you did make using different wording.
Ironically, you’re the one who just chose not to respond to the substance of my argument, and picked something else to criticize me for instead. Maybe let that sink in for a minute, if you’re not too busy clicking the “Like” button on your own posts.
Look, obviously I have made a terrible mistake in stepping into the middle of this argument you and mnenoch are having, so I’d like to extricate myself from it now and leave you guys to it. Sorry I got involved.
I did address your argument, you chose to ignore it and lie that I ignored it. The show could have easily gone with another male mad instead of giving Pearl a promotion like they did. They went from two male mads to three mads which in itself is a major change, and having the lead mad being female, all of which was very different from the original two male male setup. You may disagree but that was alot of change and quite different from what the show had been running. As for this new MST3K, instead of doing something new like with the sci fi era, they are using a indentical setup from the last version of the show.
Nice ad homian and red herring by the way.
Everybody, just don’t listen to Thad, he is just as bad as EricJ.
Personally I do see issues with this new MST3K, mainly being 15 years too late with the majority of the talent having moved on. Still I wish ya good luck Joel.
I’ve enjoyed most of Thad’s recent posts here, they are typically measured and well reasoned. I would not equate them(Thad) at all with EricWeJ.
“Sadly,” is the last buoy crappy internet bloggers cling to when drowning in their attempt at condescending sincerity.
Charade you are.
“This Version” ???
Zero episodes in the can and you have the unmitigated nerve to judge “this version”?
How clairvoyant of you.
I hate the internet.
I mean, I really ~really~ hate it.
All the “anti fans” are breeding like flies in reaction to the Kickstarter event.
The no-talent wannabe writers pecking on their smart phones… riding the coattails of the reboot.
Please remove yourself and speed to a NON-fan site of MST3K to complain whilst brandishing your dexterity and exercising the façade. At least that would make some sense. Talk, there, about how much you disapprove of the show until you’re blue in your strained corpulent face.
This peanut gallery sniping is pathetic… the lack of vision… embarrassing.
The majority of MST3K fans are stoked by this event. I don’t care if you donate or not, but this TANGIBLE EFFORT to discourage forward momentum is disgusting.
The calcified and ignorant are braying like jackasses in a thunderstorm.
If you can’t be optimistic about this grand experiment, you can at least have the dignity to shut your pie hole while the big boys do the heavy lifting. All the armchair conjecture and condemnation is laughable. What have you done with your life? Perhaps you should examine this need to tear down what others are building. Maybe take an honest look at the core drive that moves you to punch at shadows and scream at the wind.
Joel is kicking ass and yet this place is infested with WHINERS and “EXPERTS” who want to tell HIM what to do!
REVOLTING.
I’m glad none of those were in charge when MST3K was on the air. What a mess we would have.
Hate hate HATE the internet. Hate self important, unstable fans who believe they are in some way, shape, or manner tearing ~down their gods~ with their pedantic “analysis.”
(laughing)
MST3K will move ahead – with or without you. Put that in your philosophical pipe and smoke it, buddy.
As far as all the condemnation, sit on it and spin while you go back to your video game forum or wherever you formed that stunted logic that just makes me want to go BERSERK.
Time to take your meds pal, it is just a show so you should just relax. I have nothing against Joel and I hope he does have success, I did wish him luck in my first post and I still do. But man some of you guys can’t take the slightest critiquing can you? If I were really one of these “anti fans” I would would have called Joel a big stupid head hack who is ruining my childhood and hopes he ends up on the street (just to be clear to some of you I don’t really feel that way). Agreeing with a suggestion another poster made does not make one an anti fan, geez. ;-)
Forgetting all the BS here for a minute (you kids *really* need to get a life) I do think it was an interesting suggestion about Day being the host. That hadn’t occurred to me until mentioned, but it’s really a pretty good idea.
But… I really like her evil mad as we’ve seen it. So what *I* would have liked (because I have zero expectation of it happening) is for that particular character to get in the theater and comment (kind of how they did it for the one episode where everyone switched places). A bit of a snarky riffer — I kind of appreciated CT when they had a female voice riffing, but I want that edge to it. I mean, if you really want to change the dynamic why NOT have her switch places with the janitor (for at least a couple of times during the movie) to “show him how it’s done”?
“What are you complaining about? This is EASY — let me take your place and then you can stop complaining” except, of course, she finds it equally trying. I dunno — just seems like it might be a fun way meta thing to do (kind of like when Gypsy went in and found out she wasn’t much good at riffing).
As I said early in this thread, Day is (surprisingly to me, since I haven’t much cared for her in the past) the thing about this reboot that gives me the most hope. Well, that and the new bot voices. The one person I’m thinking is the weakest here is the host, but it’s early days. Let’s see what happens to this whole shebang after Thursday…
Hey now, let’s not say things we can’t take back.
It did have that “Sarah Silverman toning her personal predatory evil-psychotic mode down for the mainstream Disney movie” quality to it.
Okay, I’ll make the “Last of the Wild Horses” reference here, and now that we’re all back in the Joel-ist philosophy of riffing again, she’s the Hammer, not the Anvil–
She’s the one using the movies to destroy Jonah and presumably take over the world (if she’s following Dr. F and Pearl’s old plans), why on earth would she show Jonah how to survive them?
Judging by that comment, we all seem to have lost a lot over the Sci-Fi years, where riffing movies was seen as just kicking back with superior hipness because one can, with none of the “suffering” comic edge that made viewers sympathize with the joke in the first place. If that’s one thing the new series is going to fix, bring it on.
So….sort of like the end of Castle of Fu Manchu, then? (Where the point was that NOBODY could riff anything this soul-crushing.)
H&TB
wow, I said it first ;)
The host, bots and mads are in a comedy skit within a show. If the host segments are 10 percent of the show and the show is a little over 90 minutes old, they last about 10 minutes total.This is not a common pattern in shows. I can only think of a few examples of a short show within a show with the same characters and most of them are old.
SNL does them sometime. I haven’t watched the show in years but I remember the church lady, hans and frans, and Mr Robinsons neighborhood off the top of my head. The Carol Burnett show had a skit called Mama’s family which later became its own show. Going way, way back, before my time, the Honeymooners was part of My Show of Shows (I think).
Personally, I don’t expect a lot of character development from a series of short comedy skits. You learn more about the character over time and the character gets to be more three dimensional over time but there really is not much actual development.
Joel should select his on air personalities based on their talent first and secondly their ability to bring in new fans. He’s done that. I’d like to see diversity in his writing staff. I’d also like to see him bring back a few of the old writers. I don’t know the total number but there were probably 20 or 30 over the years. I’d hate to see all of the writers be the same age and outlook. Have them all over the place in age, experience and outlook.
I’d feel sad seeing Frank as still a second banana 20 years later. I’d rather see him as a part time writer and have a cameo or two as the head of his own mad scientist corp or even a recurring role, if and only if, they pay him enough to make it worth his while. Frank should not be doing this out of the goodness of his heart. SHOW HIM THE MONEY!
People always say that guy’s marry their mother. Clayton could be strait, gay, or bi, we don’t know, and I for one don’t really care. I could see Dr. Forester with a girlfriend. She would be the type woman who liked bad boys. She takes charge and he just follows along. Then when she realizes that he isn’t as much of a macho bad guy as she thought, she dumped him, then found out she was pregnant. She told her daughter what a wimp he was but her daughter secretly idolized him as a child and has all sorts of dreams about what a wonderful bad guy he was. She follows in his footsteps, honoring the person she created in own her head. I can see her telling stories about the things he did that are totally fabricated from her own head. Over the top, funny things. Mixing up old movie scripts with reality, that sort of thing.
I apologize for the PC comment. It just seems that is the thing to do these days is “hey I know what we’ll do, we’ll take an old series and recast the lead character as (name something opposite from original character) – that’ll make it really original”. My point on that is changing just to change doesn’t make sense, if it’s for the best of the show then I’m all for it.
I’m not in denial that changes happened over the years, like reading fan mail, or the invention exchange. The plots didn’t really change and the only time they even had a plot was when SciFi forced one on them. Again my point was that over there show there weren’t any real character developments as an actual scripted show. There were additions to the characters that happened over time but I believe weren’t an intended thing as in being written that way. Like Tom Servo liking underwear and Crow being called Art. I don’t see how the set changing could be seen as a major change in how the show was done. If you were to watch an episode from season 2 and one from season 10 you would still recognize the same format of the show despite the character changes. Overall any changes were organic by the crew and not a deliberate forced change for changes sake.
Again those are your opinion of Rifftrax that I completely disagree with so there is no fact there. I think some of their most recent riffs are some of the freshest I’ve seen in years. The recent riff of NatGeo was really great in my opinion and didn’t feature any internet memes, only had callbacks to previous NatGeo episodes (I can’t really get down on callbacks as MST3K used them all the time).
Thad I’d say you’re right on with my opinion that they should stick closely with the original series as much as possible. I guess my favorite thing about MST3K is always light hearted and fun. I can watch and have a good time with it and I’ve always thought that was seriously unique in a TV series because it seems to me that almost every other show has to from time to time try to make some profound moving message and yet it always had an endearing earnest heart that I always have a home with. If nothing else I don’t care who they have as host or voices or mads if they can just capture that spirit it’ll be great.
Hi everyone
Happy MST3K Day!!!!
Hope y’all had a large helping of mst3k with your turkey!
Enjoy watching the Kickstarter rise!!!
maybe they’ll riff the New Monkees!