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Goodbye Sci-Fi

Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett reflect on MST3K's final broadcast.

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  1. Johnny Drama
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    It’s so weird to be a part of a fandom that I love immensely that holds this one movie above all others, and I couldn’t care less about it. It’s like living in Bizzaro-land. Imagine if you will, you woke up, and virtually all the MSTies were championing Castle Of Fu-Manchu. Personally, that would be pretty funny. But I’m just trying to provide a WTF example of what it’s like to be me as a MSTie.
    I know I’m the outlier; my favorite Mike episode is Kitten With A Whip!
    I’m sure I’ll watch this RiffTrax at some point, I always do.

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  2. jay
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    The cover art. First of all is it from a completely different movie? No Battlestar Galactica for one thing. Also, the woman bears zero resemblance to anyone in the movie unless there was a bubble eyed guppie with a wig in a scene I never saw. Take a look at Bart Blastomere’s arm. It would look wrong even on a cheap Chinese knock off action figure, but I digress. The real point is …
    No safety railings!!

    PS – I dislike unalloyed criticism, so… The Man of Many Names has pretty cool shoes. There.

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  3. Terry the Sensitive Knight
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    jay: Also, the woman bears zero resemblance to anyone in the movie

    She kinda looks like Lt. Lamont, maybe she’s back from the dead to kick some ass?

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  4. Michael Kuzmanovski
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    Johnny Drama:
    It’s so weird to be a part of a fandom that I love immensely that holds this one movie above all others, and I couldn’t care less about it. It’s like living in Bizzaro-land. Imagine if you will, you woke up, and virtually all the MSTies were championing Castle Of Fu-Manchu. Personally, that would be pretty funny. But I’m just trying to provide a WTF example of what it’s like to be me as a MSTie.
    I know I’m the outlier; my favorite Mike episode is Kitten With A Whip!
    I’m sure I’ll watch this RiffTrax at some point, I always do.

    I like the Space Mutiny episode, but it’s strange that that movie has become the go to ambassador for MST3K. Making up the new names for David Ryder is also one very unfunny. It was fine within the original episode from MST3K, but now its just tiresome when anyone does that.

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  5. The Original EricJ
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    jay:
    The cover art.First of all is it from a completely different movie?No Battlestar Galactica for one thing.Also, the woman bears zero resemblance to anyone in the movie unless there was a bubble eyed guppie with a wig in a scene I never saw.Take a look at Bart Blastomere’s arm.It would look wrong even on a cheap Chinese knock off action figure, but I digress.

    Would you rather that Mike & Bill cheap-Photoshop their dopily mugging heads onto the characters, like in the good old days?

    Johnny Drama:
    It’s so weird to be a part of a fandom that I love immensely that holds this one movie above all others, and I couldn’t care less about it. It’s like living in Bizzaro-land. Imagine if you will, you woke up, and virtually all the MSTies were championing Castle Of Fu-Manchu.

    No, there are TOO many reasons why fans have latched onto it, and out of those, only two or three actually have to do with the episode.
    To be fair, the running Big McLargeHuge distraction is funny, at least funnier than when J&tB did that earlier version in “Hercules Against the Moon Men”.

    (Hey, just try being a Doctor Who fan who stopped watching the new series halfway through Rose’s season, a Star Wars fan who hated Empire Strikes Back as a kid, or a Disney fan who found “Lion King” insulting…Solidarity, brother, all we’ve got is our one lone guitar and the Truth.)

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  6. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    Just bought it. :-)

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  7. eegah
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    The MST3K episode is classic. The live show redo left me flat.

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  8. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    Why does he have a tennis racket?

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  9. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    eegah:
    The MST3K episode is classic. The live show redo left me flat.

    I consider “Space Mutiny” to be an about average or slightly-higher-than-average MST3K episode. I don’t presume that the Rifftrax version, which will have different riffs but THE EXACT SAME RIFFERS, will be much better. Still, it’ll be something. Of course, you can say that about anything.

    I don’t suppose anyone knows if the unedited film offers any explanation for the nude woman in the disco cantina or whatever it was? I mean, the filmmakers had that actress dispense with clothes for SOME reason. Well, I’ll find out for myself soon. :-)

    In “Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV” (2000) (which IMHO really should’ve been entitled “Toxic Avengers IV: Citizen Toxie” but who cares what I think?), an actress “offered to do her role completely nude in exchange for one line in the film” (IMDB). Which has nothing to do with anything except that I happened to recall it as an out-of-nowhere nude scene that IS known to have an explanation. ;-)

    (I don’t usually watch Troma films because IMHO they tend to take themselves WAY TOO not-seriously but this one had multiple super-heroes in it so I watched it for that.)

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  10. privateiron
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    Touches: assuming you are serious, I am pretty sure that actress just has hair covering a skimpy outfit which can occasionally just barely be seen.

    The missing scenes reveal slightly more “plot,” but don’t explain anything, unless you might be a Balerian, in which case it all makes sense.

    I personally thought the original was good, but not quite great. The new one is funny, but not a classic like “Death Promise” or “R.O.T.O.R.” The short is eccentric and worth seeing as is Kevin’s outfit.

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  11. SaveFerris
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    YAY!!! FINALLY get to see this (Yes, guilty as charged, I’m NOT a “funder”……but don’t worry, they make a TON of money on me, otherwise (there’s VERY little of all of their other stuff I do NOT own)!)!

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  12. Johnny Drama
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    Michael Kuzmanovski: I like the Space Mutiny episode, but it’s strange that that movie has become the go to ambassador for MST3K.

    Right? I mean, if you’re trying to introduce someone to The Beatles, you don’t say here’s Ringo’s solo album! It’s got some good songs, and sold better than the other solo stuff, but it ain’t The Beatles!

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  13. The Original EricJ
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    Johnny Drama: Right? I mean, if you’re trying to introduce someone to The Beatles, you don’t say here’s Ringo’s solo album! It’s got some good songs, and sold better than the other solo stuff, but it ain’t The Beatles!

    And you don’t say “Sgt. Pepper?? Dude, any TRUE fan has to listen to the White Album first, that was the first one I ever bought in high school, and still the only greatest album they ever made!…Who needs that Ed Sullivan ‘Hard Day’s Night’ crap?”

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  14. SmudgyTheBootblack
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    When you’re too cool rebel for the tastes of the mainstream(mst3k!?) masses, but it still stings and you have to vent.

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  15. eegah
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    We enjoyed it much more during our second viewing. These redos are always awkward because the classic riffs are absent (see: The Room), but I guess that gets more palatable after more viewings.

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  16. Jeremy Zharkov
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    Michael Kuzmanovski: I like the Space Mutiny episode, but it’s strange that that movie has become the go to ambassador for MST3K.Making up the new names for David Ryder is also one very unfunny. It was fine within the original episode from MST3K, but now its just tiresome when anyone does that.

    The movie itself is genuinely funny, with the floor buffer chase scene always cracking me up. And Cameron MItchell, Reb Brown, silly sets, props, and BG footage, it’s a classic.

    Personally, I’ve never understood why Manos is considered to be one, given that it’s literally a movie about sex slavery, with children at that, which is probably about the worst thing there is.

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  17. Michael Kuzmanovski
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    Jeremy Zharkov: The movie itself is genuinely funny, with the floor buffer chase scene always cracking me up. And Cameron MItchell, Reb Brown, silly sets, props, and BG footage, it’s a classic.

    Personally, I’ve never understood why Manos is considered to be one, given that it’s literally a movie about sex slavery, with children at that, which is probably about the worst thing there is.

    Manos just looks so weird. If it were shot just a little better, I think it would be unremarkable, but as Joel said, “Every frame of this movie looks like someone’s last known photo.”

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  18. GareChicago
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    The Original EricJ: Would you rather that Mike & Bill cheap-Photoshop their dopily mugging heads onto the characters, like in the good old days?

    We get it.

    You can stop.

    Delete your account.

    Gare

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  19. Lawgiver
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    The Original EricJ: Would you rather that Mike & Bill cheap-Photoshop their dopily mugging heads onto the characters, like in the good old days?

    It was super cool when they did that. Truly the good old days.

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  20. The Original EricJ
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    Jeremy Zharkov: The movie itself is genuinely funny, with the floor buffer chase scene always cracking me up. And Cameron MItchell, Reb Brown, silly sets, props, and BG footage, it’s a classic.

    Personally, I’ve never understood why Manos is considered to be one, given that it’s literally a movie about sex slavery, with children at that, which is probably about the worst thing there is.

    M&tB making up funny bodybuilder names: Funny.
    Joel & Trace imitating Torgo (“Where is the Master?” “hE’s In HOUS-tOn ThIs wEeK!”): Funnier. :)

    (Also emphasizes that the point of the show is that the movies should be excruciating torture, and not things that high-schoolers snigger at because they have 80’s spandex, big-hair and BG footage.)

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  21. Ken McElhaney
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    Unlike “Time Chasers”, where I thought the Rifftrax crew totally outdid the MST3K original, I thought this version of “Space Mutiny” was a little flat compared to its predecessor.

    Don’t get me wrong, I laughed through the Rifftrax version both in the theater and again when it was released for digital download. However, I think they tried a little too hard to avoid the many excellent lines from the MST3K version, save for the many new names of Dave Ryder.

    The result was so much time between jokes with some falling flat. It didn’t help that the MST3K version is nearly perfect.

    Oh well, it’s still funny.

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  22. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    GareChicago: We get it.
    You can stop.

    Delete your account.

    Gare

    he said: “Would you rather that Mike & Bill cheap-Photoshop their dopily mugging heads onto the characters, like in the good old days?”

    Presumably he’s okay with KEVIN doing that same thing, though, since he doesn’t mention Kevin.

    Because, I’m guessing, Kevin was present for most of the Joel era.

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  23. Mr. Sack
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    Michael Kuzmanovski: as Joel said, “Every frame of this movie looks like someone’s last known photo.”

    Favorite riff from that movie. So hilarious.

    Johnny Drama:
    It’s so weird to be a part of a fandom that I love immensely that holds this one movie above all others, and I couldn’t care less about it. It’s like living in Bizzaro-land. Imagine if you will, you woke up, and virtually all the MSTies were championing Castle Of Fu-Manchu. Personally, that would be pretty funny. But I’m just trying to provide a WTF example of what it’s like to be me as a MSTie.
    I know I’m the outlier; my favorite Mike episode is Kitten With A Whip!

    I personally love all the TV shows turned into television movie episodes. They always seem to tap into the cultural zeitgeist of the moment with those (think all the 70s jokes with Riding with Death, or the 80s cheese of the Master Ninja flicks). Plus, I love all the “coming up later…uh, after you return home from the theater” gags. And yet, I know San Francisco International, my all-time favorite episode, will not appear on a marathon. But hey, that’s alright, because even the worst episode of MST3K is television gold.

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  24. mst3kme
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    Hi. It’s MST3KMe, formerly known as Lavendare.

    There’s a new Mary Jo and Bridget VOD available at Rifftrax.

    “Devil Girl From Mars.”

    Enjoy.

    Also, four members here are/were under the assumption that I work for Rifftrax.

    I don’t.

    I just like to spread the good vibes around. :-)

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  25. The Original EricJ
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    touches no one's life, then leaves: he said: “Would you rather that Mike & Bill cheap-Photoshop their dopily mugging heads onto the characters, like in the good old days?”

    Presumably he’s okay with KEVIN doing that same thing, though, since he doesn’t mention Kevin.

    Well, we know Bill would be playing the girl, who would Kevin play, the tennis racket?

    (Although they’d probably put him in as Captain Santa, since he looks the part by now.)

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  26. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    So, since weekly MST3K episode discussions are off the calendar for a while, how about weekly RIFFTRAX discussions? :-)

    Or perhaps discussions on:

    Cinematic Titanic

    Film Crew

    Incognito Cinema Warriors XP

    Off-topic, perhaps the Incognito Cinema guys could guest-star on MST3K The Return some time. Or other totally unconnected riffers like Josh Way (from the Fun with Flicks DVDs), the Cinema Snob, and/or others I don’t recall at the moment could do that.

    Maybe even horror show hosts from the era of host-segments-but-no-riffs! Those have been cited as influences on MST3K, haven’t they? Elvira, Svengoolie, and uh, however many others are still alive. AFAIK they tend to be pretty good sports.

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  27. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    Jeremy Zharkov:
    Personally, I’ve never understood why Manos is considered to be one, given that it’s literally a movie about sex slavery, with children at that, which is probably about the worst thing there is.

    Well, it’s about other stuff too.

    Besides, it’s THE VILLAIN who’s enslaving people. If it were the PROTAGONISTS doing it, that would be an entirely different movie.

    Kind of like this one:

    http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport/reviews/K/KissMeQuick.html

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  28. mst3kme
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    Touches:

    Sampo and Erhardt are busy men.

    Do you know about the “Faith’s Take” YouTube channel?

    Faith is a young woman who post reviews of MST3K episodes and Rifftrax.

    She’s witty and smart.

    Here’s the link.

    https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCLZMRy9IqmwBRLVRLKklMWw/playlists

    Enjoy.

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    So, since weekly MST3K episode discussions are off the calendar for a while, how about weekly RIFFTRAX discussions? :-)

    Or perhaps discussions on:

    Cinematic Titanic

    Film Crew

    Incognito Cinema Warriors XP

    Off-topic, perhaps the Incognito Cinema guys could guest-star on MST3K The Return some time. Or other totally unconnected riffers like Josh Way (from the Fun with Flicks DVDs), the Cinema Snob, and/or others I don’t recall at the moment could do that.

    Maybe even horror show hosts from the era of host-segments-but-no-riffs! Those have been cited as influences on MST3K, haven’t they? Elvira, Svengoolie, and uh, however many others are still alive. AFAIK they tend to be pretty good sports.

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  29. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    mst3kme:
    Touches:

    Sampo and Erhardt are busy men.

    Well, it was just a suggestion. Cripes…

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  30. SmudgyTheBootblack
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    The Original EricJ: M&tB making up funny bodybuilder names:Funny.
    Joel & Trace imitating Torgo (“Where is the Master?”“hE’s In HOUS-tOn ThIs wEeK!”):Funnier.:)

    (Also emphasizes that the point of the show is that the movies should be excruciating torture, and not things that high-schoolers snigger at because they have 80’s spandex, big-hair and BG footage.)

    The Houston joke was Servo/Kevin. You need to brush up on your MST3k, Pal!

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  31. mst3kme
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    Touches:

    I thought I was just making a suggestion, too.

    I meant well.

    touches no one’s life, then leaves: Well, it was just a suggestion. Cripes…

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  32. touches no one's life, then leaves
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    (I’m way off-script here; sorry about that)

    Jeremy Zharkov:
    Personally, I’ve never understood why Manos is considered to be one, given that it’s literally a movie about sex slavery, with children at that, which is probably about the worst thing there is.

    Well, horrific as child sex slavery is, there are a handful of things even worse. Child murder, for instance. It’s at least remotely possible (although certainly never easy) to recover from being enslaved and traumatized, even in childhood. At the risk of being mind-numbingly obvious, no one recovers from being murdered. No one.

    No reflection on you in particular, of course, but this is just one example of a deep-seated theme in a lot of, well, a lot of western civilization in general, the idea that rape is worse than murder. IMHO nothing that can be survived is worse than murder. That’s kind of what “where there’s life, there’s hope” means. No matter what horrendous straits you might be in, while you’re alive, there’s always the tiniest chance, the hope, that something, anything, can happen to change your situation for the better. Religious doctrines aside, once you’re dead, that’s it. That will never change.

    “Well! THAT threw cold water on everything…!”

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