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Episode guide: 813- Jack Frost

Movie: (1966) A Russian version of the Cinderella story includes a mushroom sprite, a bear-headed hero and house with legs.

First shown: 7/12/97
Opening: Mike Nelson IS Lord of the Dance!
Intro: Mike mediates a squabble between Bobo and Brain Guy
Host segment 1: Crow hires a Russian expert
Host segment 2: Crow’s a bear, while Bobo and Brain Guy find common ground
Host segment 3: Crow hires another Russian expert–or someone like him
End: Tom fails in his attempt to be cute; Bobo and Brain Guy discuss ape movies, but Pearl returns to settle the matter
Stinger: “Bring on my fiancee!”
1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (285 votes, average: 4.65 out of 5)

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• For the longest time, there was the “Russo-Finnish troika” of “Day the Earth Froze,” “Sinbad” and “Sword and the Dragon.” The Sci-Fi era needed one too, I guess, so now it’s a quartet, and wow, is this one ever out there. It’s not directed by Aleksandr Ptushko, as they other ones were, but it definitely has that weird vibe that gives them plenty of riffing fodder, and they do a great job with it. Some of the host segments are great, others don’t do much for me.
• Check out Mary Jo’s take on this episode here.
• This episode was included on Shout!Factory’s Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection: Vol. XVIII.
• To start things off, we get one of the host segment highlights of the season as Mike parodies human peacock Michael Flatley, especially his deeply self-satisfied, nose-breathing smirk.
• Mike almost puts one over on Brain Guy, who is almost sucked into the theater, but not quite.
• Obscure reference: Hildegard von Bingen. Even I needed to look that one up. The next time somebody tries to tell you all MST3K does is fart jokes, remind them of THIS.
• The segment where Crow becomes a bear is another gem, a great example of Bill’s slightly demented Crow, very different from Trace’s Crow but very funny. Grr!
• Crow is still a bear when he returns to the theater.
• That’s Patrick as Yakov Smirnoff; and that’s Paul as Earl Torgeson. Both the “Crow hires an expert” segments didn’t do much for me. Yakov’s standup act wasn’t quite as lame as they make it out to be, and the second bit just sort of wanders off without a real payoff.
• In the comments, a number of readers have noted that by about eight episodes in, Bobo’s character had totally, well, devolved. When we first met him at the beginning of the season, he was a sophisticated gentleman and scientist. Slowly but surely the writers changed him into the happy-go-lucky, termite-eating dimwit who so exasperates Brain Guy and Pearl. Not really a criticism. Just an observation.
• Dalesim: As thug smells his hand, Mike: “Hm. I thought I was Dale!”
• Cast roundup: Georgiy Millyar and Valentin Bryleyev were both in “The Day the Earth Froze.” That’s it.
• CreditsWatch: Kevin again gets the “Produced & Directed” credit. Following this episode, Grip Mike Parker takes two episodes off. And this was the last episode interns Tamara Melloy and Randy Smith worked on.
• Fave line: “Apparently there’s no Finnish word for ‘subtle.’ ” Honorable mention: “I thought Jerry Garcia was Father Mushroom.”

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  1. big61al says:

    A really great stand out episode. The film has some of the weirdest things ever filmed. Top notch riffing.

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  2. Cheapskate Crow says:

    Probably the best of the whole Sci-Fi era! I liked The Day The Earth Froze but wasn’t a big fan of the other Russo-Finnish movies but this movie is bizarrely watchable and is right in the Brains wheelhouse. Everything clicks and even some of the host segments were good, which I don’t think was generally the case in the Sci-Fi era. I think this would be a good starter episode but as I am old, I already introduced everyone I know to the show years ago.

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  3. Joseph Nebus says:

    @100 jjb3k –

    I have a theory – just a theory, nothing more – that, throughout Season 8, the Brains were trying to create SciFi-era counterparts to some of their more well-known Comedy Central episodes, perhaps based on the knowledge that the CC episodes would never be broadcast again.

    I agree with your theory, and remember sometimes trying to think of the pairings. The attempt to set up Ortega as the Sci-Fi’s Torgo (which I think was largely successful, although we didn’t see so much of Ortega, and he didn’t have the catchy musical hook) and the pairing of Jack Frost with the Ruso-Finnish Troika almost demand that kind of attention.

    I wonder if it was meant as a sort of Season Eight “This Is Us, In A Season” thing, or if it was an attempt to get some of the motifs the Comedy Central run was able to rely on in episodes that could be expected to run indefinitely. I did notice with Return of the Creature that they seemed to be doing fewer callbacks and references to earlier episodes, possibly out of fear of needlessly confusing the new audience, and trying to match that with iconic episodes or movie characters made into recurring players [1] would fit naturally into that.

    [1] Why didn’t they get the Phantom Prince of Krankor back in a host sketch? Wasn’t there more to his cackling laughter we could have used?

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  4. Of no account says:

    @46 I’m not a medium, I’m a petite– No, I seriously doubt she would. Most likely she was just being evil by saying Brain Guy had to do it, and attempting to sow dissension among her ranks.

    As for the whole Bobo devolving thing – I’m not entirely certain he did. Remember, in Planet of the Apes, the gorillas are the brutes, not the intellectuals. Bobo is a gorilla, and (apparently) the most revered mind among the apes. This says that ALL the other apes on Earth are even dumber than Bobo. Pearl is somewhat intelligent, and Brain Guy is very intelligent (though the least of his people, for an interesting juxtaposition with Bobo’s situation), which just serves to point out Bobo’s limited intellect. This may have undermined his own confidence in himself, leading him to wish to prove himself (which he is thoroughly incapable of doing).

    ….Did I just break down the psychology of an ape in a puppet show?

    As for the episode, one of my favorites! I love all the Russo-Finish movies. They’re all amazingly well done considering the limitations they had to deal with (low budget, no real SFX, etc..). This one is also completely insane, which only makes it better.
    It’s good to know that contemplating a good deed with no selfish motive is far better than actually doing a good deed with a selfish motive. I’ll continue to think about doing various good deeds, but not actually do them.

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  5. snowdog says:

    I can’t believe I didn’t comment on this one last time through. It’s yet another favorite of mine (yes I have too many). In this case, I suspect I could watch this movie unriffed. It’s really not all that bad, just really, really strange. It’s funny how everyone seems to think that “Nastinka” is a beautiful name rather than a combination of “nasty” and “stinky”.

    Favorite riff (paraphrased): Trees have a bad case of Finn blight this year.

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  6. F Burroughs says:

    JJB – I think there’s something to your theory of re-visiting all the major types from the earlier run.

    I, too was a little floored when think-headed Ivan, needing to see that redemption is more than just doing good deeds, but a change of heart; He shows true compassion by lamenting Granny’s missing walking stick and realizing there are other people beside himself in the world. Then he THROWS THE STICK AWAY. (!?!) Lots of movies show lapses in logic, but at least this is ingrained in an existing fairy tale, so maybe they have an excuse. Or maybe they’re just using weird Russian ethics.

    I’m glad this movie demonstrates once again that slightly unattractive people are EVIL.

    Will you marry me? “Um..I’m NINE!”

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  7. F Burroughs says:

    Re: Nastinka

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that Nastya is her real name and Nastinka is her degrading nickname used by her evil stepmom.

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  8. Tom Carberry says:

    Favorite Lines:

    [Marfusha/ugly step sister] Hey, Tom Petty…It’s all right if you love me. Ah, Penny Marshall was an adorable child. Danny Bonaduce is Sleeping Beauty.
    [Ivan] He’s got June Allyson hair. Do I look like Simon Le Bon?
    [Mushroom Elf] Bella Abzug.
    [Nastenka] “My name is Nastia.” Miss Jackson if you’re nasty.
    [Ivan with bear head] Tonight on a very special Grizzly Adams.
    [Mushroom Elm exits in flames] Didn’t know there were that many land mines left in Narnia.
    Beauty Consultant, Mrs. Khrushchev.
    [Nastenka] She makes Olivia Hussey look like Thelma Ritter.
    Val Kilmer is Prince Valiant.
    [Walking House] Come to Knott’s Berry Farm and ride the unstable house.
    The new 1976 Chevy Sleigh.
    [Dancing House] When am I going to pass this witch?
    [dog] Tramp’s on the loose and he’s got a gun.
    I enjoy watching people’s mental illness.
    [Marfusha] It’s good to see Anthony Michael Hall working again.
    Shut your Kringle Hole.
    I just know someone’s gonna end up in the woodchipper.
    It’s [Sergei] Prokofiev and this time he’s pissed.

    Final Thought: Beautifully filmed incomprehensible mess. I give this one 2 out of 5 stars.

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  9. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    I’m not sure about calling this a “Cinderella story.” As a rule, Prince Charming has even LESS of a personality than Ivan.

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  10. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    >>>I, too was a little floored when think-headed Ivan, needing to see that redemption is more than just doing good deeds, but a change of heart; He shows true compassion by lamenting Granny’s missing walking stick and realizing there are other people beside himself in the world. Then he THROWS THE STICK AWAY.

    Well, didn’t he do that RIGHT AFTER he saw that the spell had been broken? That meant that he’d done what Father Mushroom wanted him to do, and he presumed that THAT meant everything was all right. Lesson learned, time to move on to the next step of the Russo-Finnish hero’s journey. Or something.

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  11. Goshzilla says:

    For the record, the girl’s name is Nastenka, the familiar diminutive of which is Nastya. Her father calls her Nastya, but a newly met stranger would not. (Old Father Frost gets a pass.) The wicked stepmother calls her something cruel that the American version translates as viper. Similarly, Ivan’s mother calls him Ivanushka, as do Father Mushroom and Baba Yaga, indicating that he’s a young man.

    I’m surprised that they didn’t change the names like they did the title for the American d

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  12. Goshzilla says:

    I’m surprised that they didn’t change the names like they did the title for the American dub, but I guess they weren’t worried about people figuring out it was Russian once they’d already started watching. It’s not like there’s an obvious Marxist moral like in a certain movie starring not-Sinbad.

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  13. Larry P. says:

    Oooh, great episode! This is, what, the fourth powerhouse episode in a row? S8 was really firing on all cylinders by this point. I’ve always liked this one; great riffing and a movie so weird that it’s bizarrely watchable. I caught this ep during it’s initial airing, loved it, but then we dropped cable before I had a chance to tape a rerun (dropping cable was not by my choice, but hey, I was 11). I asked an aunt to tape a later airing for me, which she kindly did, except somehow she missed everything up to and including the first movie segment, and for years, that’s the copy I had to make do with. Luckily the official DVD release changed all that.

    A few years back I found the un-MST’d version on DVD for the bargain price of $1 at the grocery store, and was waaay too happy to purchase it. A treasured part of my DVD library? I wouldn’t go that far, but I do get a kick out of grabbing un-MST’d versions of some of the more obscure films featured on the show. Don’t ask me why.

    Also, Sampo brings up something I’ve been wondering about: When DID Sci-Fi sort of stop promoting the show? I know there were promos all throughout season 8, and promos for the finale, but when did they sort of lose interest in that department? Mid-season 9?

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  14. snowdog says:

    @Goshilla, Thanks, I always wondered about the name thing!

    @LarryP. I don’t remember seeing a single promo after season 8 until the final episode which SciFi promoted in almost every commercial break throughout the day. It’s possible that I missed a few in early Season 9, though.

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  15. Feyd Rautha says:

    I’ll have you know those commercials were instrumental in getting my friends and I to start playing M:TG! I believe this was the commercial from the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svgntEThit4 and features music by Beck. So, I suppose it was a lame commercial after all…

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  16. Depressing Aunt says:

    About the witch’s pig being fed deviled ham, I vaguely remember reading in a college textbook that if you eat a pig which has consistently been fed pork, you’re liable to get a parasite. So, don’t do that.

    I like the moment when the little girls are terrified to see adorable bear cubs collecting giant mushrooms. I didn’t see any threatening mama bears nearby…maybe the girls’ parents taught them that cuteness was fatal.

    Love Crow’s:
    Later, in Tingly Wingly Pixie Wixie Land…

    Crow gets off another good one right when the movie starts. The first of a series of Russian names appears on the screen and he says “Oh!” as if in recognition, then makes a garbled noise which sounds like he’s clearing his sinuses, because apparently that’s how he thinks you pronounce Russian names.

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  17. After last week’s weird and dreary TISCWSLABMUZ experiment, this week we get the weird and lively Jack Frost. This movie, to put it lightly, is bonkers. This is a classic episode of MST!

    The “Mike Nelson is the Lord of the Dance” opening is great, especially Mike’s facial expressions, as Sampo put it, “his deeply self-satisfied, nose-breathing smirk.” I remember those Lord of the Dance commercials being all over cable back when this episode aired, glad Mike and the bots ripped him a new one.

    Brain Guy alllllllmost watches the movie, but not quite. I’m sure his riffing would’ve been grand. Wonder what he would’ve made of Jack Frost?

    I like the Host Segments, mostly. HS#1 works for me with Crow persistently asking his intelligent and overly literate questions of Yakov Smirnoff, who responds with nothing but his lame standup routine. It’s funny, I like it, but I wonder how exactly Crow got Yakov on the Hexfield? Isn’t the Satellite adrift in time and space…or something? I know, it’s just a show, etc…

    HS#2 is funny because of “I’m a bear” and Brain Guy and Bobo bonding over brewskis. (Say that five times fast)

    HS#3 is the weakest of the three, as the Earl Torgeson bit goes nowhere fast. The drawings on the easel are better than Torgeson.

    The riffing and the movie however. . . talk about a match made in heaven! This episode can go toe-to-toe with The Day the Earth Froze (although I give the latter the edge due to the Circus short) and is one of the best episodes of the first half of Season 8. Mike and the bots really bring their A-game, something about these colorful, mini-epics that really bring out some of the Best in the Brains (see what I did there?) Jack Frost (the movie) is enjoyably weird and off-kilter. It’s a fairy-tale of freakiness! The evil stepmother and her nasty Tom Petty daughter are completely deplorable, more so than the wacky Baba Yaga (hunchback fairy?) and that band of forest thieves (led by the Human Schnauzer). Ivan is such a pompous doof when we first seem him that his transformation into a bear is very satisfying (although, also a bit startling). I love the part where bear-Ivan tries to help that group of ladies in the forest and they just scatter and run from him screaming. The voice-overdub in that scene is hilarious.. “I’m just trying to help youuu!” Also, there’s Father Mushroom. ‘Nuff Said.

    The stinger to this episode is all wrong. It shoulda been something with the Mushroom or bear-Ivan.


    RIFFS:

    Mike: “Names are all Russian for ‘Alan Smithee’.”

    fast knitting,
    Servo: “SUUUURRGE!”

    roosters crow,
    Servo: “Man, Peter must of been walking around denying everybody this morning.”

    Servo: “I think he missed the point of juggling.”

    Mike: “So what does a mushroom eat for hallucinations?”
    Crow: “I think they lick toads.”

    Crow: “Cabbage burp.”

    Crow: “And the freelance shame squad is there.”

    Crow: “Uhh, roasted nuts.”

    Crow: “Hey, he can make the film reverse!”

    Mike: “Eat lead, spring!”

    Servo: (as squirrel) “Wait ’till he finds out I blew up the bridge.”

    Servo: “Apparently there’s no Finnish word for subtle.”

    Crow: “It’s the Seven Dwarfs: Filthy, Rotting, Lousey, Skanky, Scabby, Septic, and Doc.”

    Mike: “The flying batch.”

    Jack Frost, classic episode, 5/5

    And let’s not forget: the best ape movie is Dunston Checks In. End of story.

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  18. Sometimes, when I want to get out of doing something (dishes, perhaps) I’ll say, “Yep. I’m a bear. Mushroom guy turned me into a bear.” Because bears can’t do dishes or vacuum or anything. And when I’m mad at something (like having to cover an assignment I don’t like) I’ll say “Grr!” to my boyfrend as a punctuation to my complaint.

    Just another example of how to use MST3K in everyday life!

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  19. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    #116:

    I’d be surprised if the original dialogue stated that the pig was eating deviled ham. It seems more likely that the dubbers simply had no idea what you should feed pigs (neither do I) so they just, well, you know.

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  20. jjk says:

    One of the best of the later years of the show’s episodes. Great riffing and a very goofy movie. This is one episode I would recomenned to people who are not familiar with this show.

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  21. saintstryfe says:

    This is one of my all-time favorite episodes. I was trading copied anime to a friend who had satellite TV for MST3K epsiodes – probably sent him 10 tapes, he sent me this one, and I don’t think I got another one for a year. He was a lousy friend.

    Anyway, it is so silly and the jokes are so perfect.

    “I just don’t LIKE evil Russo-Finnish grandmas, Mike….”

    “WOW it barely works!”

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  22. I’ll just leave my silly digital doodling here for Jack Frost fans.

    http://nosecondpassword.blogspot.com/2013/08/not-princess.html

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  23. goalieboy82 says:

    i am watching this episode right now (half way through). rented the dvd from netflix.

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  24. Stupid Repulsive Anteater says:

    Have to give a nod to a great line in the opening segment:

    Crow, bombastic: “Mike Nelson IS Lord Of The Dance!!!”

    Gypsy, confused and somewhat quiet: “Did the other one die?”

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  25. H says:

    Hey, just noticing this but has it always been ‘Brian Guy’ in the fifth note, the one about how Mike almost got him?

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  26. JC says:

    Personal story: I took a Russian Culture class where one of our course readings was the fairy tales that this film was based on. The Hunchback Fairy (Baba Yaga), the house with bird feet, even a were-bear. So I was forced to read the really bad literature that Jack Frost is based on. It’s the closest I’ll get to actually living an MST episode.

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  27. torgo02 says:

    I must politely disagree with Sampo and some others, the Crow-hires-Yakoff sketch always has me rolling. The line “We break rock in gulag” is at once horrific and hysterical. That has become one of my catch phrases and I’m not ashamed to admit it!

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  28. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    >>>I vaguely remember reading in a college textbook that if you eat a pig which has consistently been fed pork, you’re liable to get a parasite.

    Well, Hunchback Fairy wasn’t about to eat the pig, anyway. He was her PET. Or possibly witch’s familiar or some such thing, the line can be so vague.

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  29. EricH says:

    Being a Magic the Gathering fan since 1995, I’m a bit surprised to learn they made TV commercials.

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  30. Cornjob says:

    I admit that most of what I know about Baba Yaga comes from Dungeons and Dragons, but I seem to recall her as being a horrifying monster that that could devastate and terrorize whole countrysides with her magic. Not the comic relief this movie presents us with, horrifying as she is.

    Like Santa Claus, Fairy Tales and Folk Stories often don’t translate well into the literal format of cinema, and end up absurd or insane. Surreal at best.

    I’m a little surprised that we didn’t get a, “Run, Forrest Run”, joke when the forest was, well, running.

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  31. Sitting Duck says:

    Regarding the “Tingly Wingly Pixie Wixie Land” riff, I vaguely recall something from a Monty Python documentary I once saw. A sketch from one of their pre-Python gigs (Frost Report IIRC) has a reporter proposing a story to his editor. The story is typical faerie tale stuff and he uses plenty of gag-inducing baby talk in his description. Naturally, the editor tells him where to stick it and the reporter is escorted out by a woman dressed up in a campy faerie costume. Think the riff might be a reference to that?

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  32. Creeping-Death says:

    Another favorite episode, 5 stars. I bet this movie would be great in Russian with English subtitles, like the other “Russo-Finnish” movies, and Kevin stated in interviews he’s loved the beautiful scenery and shots of this one and the other movies of this genre.

    Favorite lines:

    The Monty Python riffs:
    Mike: How not to be seen
    Servo: Hello Mrs. Non-Gorilla
    Servo: It’s…
    Mike: It’s…
    Crow: It’s… a convention of Michael Palin imitators!

    Stepmother: Nope! Not a princess.
    Servo: She’s got that healthy clown glow.
    Marfushka: Oh, no?
    Stepmother: You are a queen!
    Mike: In that you look like Freddie Mercury.

    On the scruffy bandits:
    Crow: It’s the Seven Dwarves! Filthy, Rotting, Lousey, Skanky, Scabby, Septic and… Doc.

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  33. Depressing Aunt says:

    #119 & #128

    My “don’t do that” was meant for real human beings, not fictional witches. It’s silly advice. :)

    #122

    That’s so cool!

    Crow looks good as a bear. He’s so skinny he can wear anything, I *hate* him!

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  34. Stefanie says:

    This was THE VERY FIRST MST episode my family and I ever watched. we were flipping channels and this was two-thirds over, but WE WERE HOOKED! It’s kinda mind blowing how this show and it’s successors (Rifftrax & Cinematic Titanic)has had a permanent influence on us. My sister and I can not watch any movie or tv show without some degree of riffing. We can’t turn it off, it’s a gift/curse.

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  35. spap oop says:

    if im wrong correct me. or did i imagine the part about “delivering the guns to jimmy and stirring the sauce?”-Nastays tasks? Goodfellas ref.?

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  36. bdtrppr6 says:

    i can easily say this is my favorite episode. just so out there filmwise and they are on with the riffs, too good!

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  37. 1 adam 12 says:

    As a Magic The Gathering player, I’m just happy that there WERE commercials about my favorite hobby. Yes, they were kind of irritating, and I don’t know whether they ever brought anybody else into the game, but it was still kind of a nice thing to see. “Hah, see Dad, this isn’t a waste of time. They have their own commercials! On basic cable, no less!”

    Oh, and I never saw this episode until I bought the DVDs, but it’s still great even now. The extra interview with Kevin Murphy is almost worth the price of the disc itself (well, a quarter of the price of the set, anyway).

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  38. sol-survivor says:

    I found the uncut Morozko with subtitles on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw2DN4335hU

    The sound seems to be a little low but I’m sure you can adjust it. I haven’t watched it yet, but I definitely plan to. I LOVE this episode! :inlove:

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  39. Kali says:

    When the (incredibly fake on a wire) feather is flying through the air –

    SERVO: Now seek out Forest Gump AND KILL HIM!!

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  40. Kali says:

    RE: 138

    The original version? I am definitely going to catch that. Hopefully, we won’t hear any references to the “Hunchback Fairy.” Jeez, even M&TB realized how stupid THAT sounds…

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  41. sol-survivor says:

    @140
    I don’t know. Someone who speaks Russian will have to check and see how accurate the subtitles are. The little bit I watched seems to stick fairly closely to the dubbed version, and I noticed some parts that were cut out of the MSTed version. It’s possible she was called Hunchback Fairy in the original.

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  42. Goshzilla says:

    I really doubt that “hunchback faerie” would be any Russian’s choice as a translation of Baba Yaga. I’m no expert but I believe “grandmother witch” would work nicely. Interestingly – to me anyway – this wacky kids’ movie gives a pretty accurate portrayal of the Baba Yaga’s ambiguous nature. She’s more nosy and disruptive than good or evil. (Even when she abducts small children to sow their teeth in the soil it’s with good intentions. How else are you gonna ensure fertile crops and a good harvest? Those kids shouldn’t have misbehaved.) I wonder how aware modern kids in eastern Europe are of their fascinatingly nutty folklore…

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  43. codename zirconium head says:

    131 sitting duck

    it reminded me of another monty python bit that had eric idle reading cutesy children’s fairy tales that ended up in sexual references, specifically something to the effect of:

    “roly poly the fluffy rabbit lived in a tiny mushroom hut deep in the the dingly dale with all his furry friends… where he sold contraceptives.

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  44. Kali says:

    RE: 141
    Well, the subtitles have Ivan calling her “Granny.” And it’s “Father Frost.”

    The video is a lot clearer than the DVD I got on Amazon a year or so ago (which is exactly the same version that was MSTed). From what I can see, it’s pretty much following the dubbed version closely. Nastya’s real voice is even more babydoll than the dubbed version.

    So we’re all going to be calling out riffs to the screen. :-)

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  45. sol-survivor says:

    I just looked through the subtitled opening credits and they do list Baba Yaga as a character. I guess the Russian kids must have known who she was when they saw her so Ivan didn’t have to call her by name.

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  46. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    >>>Bobo’s character had totally, well, devolved. When we first met him at the beginning of the season, he was a sophisticated gentleman and scientist. Slowly but surely the writers changed him into the happy-go-lucky, termite-eating dimwit who so exasperates Brain Guy and Pearl

    Well, eating termites was reasonably commonplace on Earth-Ape, anyway.

    “Termite, Lawgiver?”

    Anyway, on Earth-Ape, Bobo, being in charge of the other apes and reporting directly to Pearl (who really couldn’t have cared less about the apes as long as they allowed her to live in luxury), was The Alpha of the troop, just as he presumably was before the apes revived Pearl. He could give orders to anyone (even, theoretically, Mike and the Bots) except Pearl. He was IN CHARGE.

    In Team Mad, Pearl is a much more demonstrative Alpha of a much smaller troop and she allows Bobo no authority whatsoever, so he’s disproportionately subordinate.

    That’s kind of Bobo’s whole deal in this episode. Brain Guy is not Pearl, he is not The Alpha, PEARL is The Alpha, thus Brain Guy by definition cannot be IN CHARGE. This is the first time Bobo has been without Pearl since the apes revived her. If anything, he probably instinctively feels that he should be IN CHARGE of Brain Guy, just as he was of the other apes. In ape terms, Brain Guy wasn’t even The Alpha of the other Observers.

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  47. mando3b says:

    Before I retired, I taught Russian language, lit, & culture at a small college for many years. In my Russian folklore course, we read “Morozko”, the traditional tale that “Jack Frost” is based on. I would put the non-MSTied version of the film on reserve, but I would make my VHS recording of this MST3K episode available in a brown paper bag to anyone who wanted to watch it. Those that did loved it, as did the wonderful Russian lady who was my colleague for a couple of years. In the original, the obnoxious stepsister freezes to death in the woods, and we’re told the evil stepmother “didn’t like it, but there was nothing she could do”. Baba Yaga is the go-to witch in Russian folk tales; in this movie, she’s played by a famous Russian comic actor–male. As has been pointed out already, “Nastya” and “Nastenka” are standard affectionate nicknames for “Nastasya”. Russian film makers always tend to go over-the-top when they make movie versions of fairy tales; so I took a lot of wicked pleasure in seeing Mike and the ‘bots eviscerate “Jack Frost”! If you know Russian at all, you can tell exactly what the translatorese of the dubbed dialogue originally comes from. My personal favorite riff–Servo: “That mushroom guy is starting to piss me off!”

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  48. Joe Boltonn says:

    “He is nice!” -Dolores Hope

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  49. Lisa H. says:

    Mike almost pulls one over on Brian Guy

    Typo for Brain Guy, there, Sampo. And did you mean “puts one over” on?

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  50. thequietman says:

    Help me, Obi Wan Kenobowski!

    This episode is like an old friend. A favorite during the rerun era. My family saw Lord of the Dance live back when it was first touring the States. I actually enjoyed it, but it was no thanks to Flatley. The music was what I preferred. Still the opening sequence here was great because it was one of the few times I could say “Hey, I get that reference!” without having to ask.

    As for the movie, did anything have to be cut from this to fit the run time? Because unlike other “sweeping” epics they did, I don’t think there’s any actual plot holes in this. Even the ‘throwing the clubs in the air’ bit gets paid off at the end.

    Fave riffs:
    This is the factory where Beanie Babies are made…

    I’m Hans Ch- ah, forget it!

    Uh, yogurt is not a finger food.

    It’s Mrs. Creosote!

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