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Weekend Discussion Thread: Worst MSTed MovieOkay, let’s settle this one: What is the worst, the positively worst, movie ever featured on MST3K?
My vote is and will always be “Red Zone Cuba.” To paraphrase Mike, it is not only the worst movie they ever MSTed, it is not only THE worst movie ever made, it may well be the worst THING ever made. Slipshod and impossible to follow, mean-spirited and soul-deadening, it is in every way the anti-movie. It makes you want to swear off movies forever, and perhaps even renounce the existence of a higher being. It’s that bad. What movie would you pick? And show your work. 254 Replies to “Weekend Discussion Thread: Worst MSTed Movie”Commenting at Satellite News
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I have only today finished Red Zone Cuba after buying it last week. This was the first MST3K movie where I actually felt I was kidnapped by mad scientists and made to watch the worst movie ever made. I have seen Beast of Yucca Flats unriffed and, while absolutely dreadful, it seemed mercifully brief. What made RZC so painful, the mental aguish so deep, was that I had no idea when the end would come. In almost any movie, you get a sense of where you are in it; there is some plot arc that tells you you are near the end. When our lovable protagonists escaped Cuba, I figured the movie would sum up. But no, it just kept slamming me from one pointless scene to the next. It really felt like and 8-hour movie to me, like an 8-hour Manos. I can’t imagine me sitting through this movie again (but I probably will, like a child who has to take a second piece of that super-sour candy). I will say no more, it hurts just thinking about it.
I give movies that are done slightly tongue in cheek like Wild wild world of Batwoman and Village of the Giants a pass since they know they are being silly.
Also give foreign films a break for cultural differences.
The best/worst are the ones that are serious and seriously terrible.
Just finished watching Laserblast and feel it is up there as one of the worst.
No real plot. No explanation for anyone’s actions whether it was the hero, the aliens, the government guy or the bullies. Our hero was a jerk. Did the laser make him do bad things or was he a jerk all along? How did the govt guy know any of this was going on and what was the deal with Keenan Wynn? Nothing made sense and nothing gets resolved. It’s like they filmed only half the script.
Truly terrible.
So are we going to have a “‘Best’ Movies Shown On MST3k”? That will be fun.
I think the “Best” discussion will provoke even more disagreement, since in the “Worst” discussion, the same group of movies pops up for nearly everyone (who’ve seen all the episodes, anyway).
My two cents:
Red Zone Cuba
The Creeping Terror
Monster-a-Go-Go
Attack of the Eye Creatures
Manos
Someone just mentioned Mitchell, but I actually think that’s one of the best movies they did. As unappealing as JDB is, the movie itself is light years better than most of the other MST movies.
Judging now from all the responses, it’s nice to see that I’m not alone in realizing that The Skydivers is every bit as inept as Red Zone Cubs & Beast of Yucca Flats.
Because the other two are so bad, they tend to obscure the glare of incompetence away from Skydivers, but this movie may well be the worst of the three.
Taking into account it’s utter boring-ness, as well as it’s lack of any plot or semblance of what the hell it exists to portray, The Skydivers is simply awful. As another has mentioned in this thread, the characters are all odd looking & dull. Not one of them should ever be in a movie, let alone even photographed.
At least in Red Zone Cuba there was a goal in mind, and in Beast of Yucca Flats there was a plot. The Skydivers had neither.
And as a Lead actor, for audience appeal, Tony Cardoza is only slightly better than Aldo Farnese (The Dead Talk Back), in my book, and that’s saying alot. They both make one wonder “What the hell is this guy doing in a movie?”
The thing that gets me about “Mitchell” and “Final Justice” is that Joe Don plays such a totally unlikeable creep in both (remember when the BAD GUY told Mitchell he needed to be nicer? The bad guy!).
“Mitchell” I have seen unMSTed, and it’s not half bad.; it’s more like two thirds bad, but it’s still not as horrible as “Final Justice.”
Oh yeah, I had forgotten to include Laserblast in a discussion of the worst, mainly because I haven’t watched it as much as a lot of the other episodes I’ve talked about. Sooo…
Laserblast
Granted, nothing can top The Starfighters in terms of sheer, unadulterated pointlessness, but this film comes in a very close second. In a lot of ways it’s actually way more frustrating; there’s clearly some sort of a budget to this film, and there’s definite action, but the movie never gives us a reason to care for what’s happening or even bother to explain it. Add this to the fact that the main character is a thoroughly unlikeable putz and you have yourself a definite stinker.
Also, since I’ve been debating its inclusion, oh, what the hell:
Final Justice
Yes, Mitchell has its soul-scarring sex scene, but this is definitely the inferior movie of the two Joe Don Baker schlockfests. Mitchell, for all of Joe Don’s greasy, sociopathic unpleasantness, has that sort of weird 70s cop film charm that keeps it from being too terrible (though obviously still terrible). Final Justice, on the other hand, feels like a terrible attempt to remake a 70s cop movie (well, specifically trying to remake Walking Tall) in Malta. Amazingly, Joe Don somehow comes across as greasier, nastier, and more thorougly hateable in this film. The plot is even more cliched and stupid than in Mitchell, its big “twist” is obvious almost immediately, and in general it lingers way more on Joe Don being a big, psychotic bully. Plus, having the film set in Malta makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and makes me assume that producer Greydon Clark just wanted to get some backers to fund a vacation in the Meditteranean for him under the pretense of making a movie.
A ” Best Movie” discussion?
That’s easy: THE PAINTED HILLS. While it was a fun episode, I never understood why it was included as an experiment. It’s a silly kids’ movie, sure, but it’s well-shot, competently directed, and the acting isn’t atrocious. Even the Oscar-winning SPACE TRAVELERS (aka MAROONED) stinks on ice compared to this one.
They Shaved Shep and that’s all that was left of him.
Starfighters. Can you imagine going to see that in the theater? Gah!
I am very shocked that pod people hasnt been talked about more. I mean omg at one point i think there was what 3 plot lines atleast(sorry cant totally remember only time i will watch it on purpose is to fall asleep lol). I mean plus the more on top of that was hard to follow and just a horrid pile.
I also agree that starfighters is just horrid i mean i didnt even understand what the movie was trying to do. Other then those i agree on manos, RZC, and moster a go go seeing i havent seen hobgoblins yet
1. Manos – Call me old-fashioned, but I still think this is the worst movie ever. Soul-crushingly depressing and dull. When I imagine the actual filming of Manos, I can’t help but feel creeped out and dirty.
2. Hobgoblins – This film makes me feel disgusted with the human race. It seems to promote the belief that mankind is a collection of nothing more than horny idiots. (I think the makers of Meet the Spartans, Disaster Movie, Epic Movie were influenced by this.)
3. Monster A-Go-Go – The epitome of pointless confusion. You definitely get the feeling the makers gave up at some point.
4. Wild Wild World of Batwoman – Exploitative, offensive, embarrassing and confusing. Not in the campy way. It goes beyond campy into bad. The bad kind of bad. Remember that bad thing we saw? etc.
5. Castle of Fu-Manchu – Mostly just confusing and dull. Actually, entirely confusing and dull. Actually, more confusing and dull than anything else ever made.
To the people naming Hamlet as the worst movie ever: Are you not fans of Shakespeare? While it’s a terrible adaptation, I don’t find the story too dull since you know what’s going to happen. (Although I know that doesn’t make much sense.)
you know i think starfighters is maybe the one i mean good god how much refueling can one man take!
but then skydivers oh man and red zone cuba oh boy andything coleman francis just makes me want to weep.
As has been alluded to above, there are at least 2 dimensions of categories that we need to codify crap ( and maybe a third ).
The type of film… professional ( or mainstream ). semi-pro ( or fringe ) and your repackaged serials and TV shows. The semi-pro movie should be held to a different standard thne the mainstream flick. Monster A Go Go vs Overdrawn at the Memory bank.
Then there is the morality of the film… bad in the sense of evil.. does the film, despite its other shortcomings, have some kind of message or world view that we can get behind or does it just make us sick. Manos and Hobgoblns seem to come up trumps here, but to film like the Cole-Man is pretty bleak and depressing too.
The third dimension… ? Not sure but there needs to be something else.. the quality of Fun ? or of being Interesting ? or likable ? not sure.
poorest quality semi-pro film : Monster A Go-Go
most depressing semi-pro film : Manos
most depressing mainstream film : Hobgoblins
poorest quality mainstream film : Space Mutiny or Overdrawn at the Memory Bank.
How it could not be “Red Zone Cuba”? There was nothing in this movie that was good or interesting. Even with the MST cuts, this movie seemed to go on and on and on, with no since of direction (or direction). Nothing like, “sick, fever, water.” as a catch line. Even the MSTies couldn’t make it entertaining. This was a depressing movie years before its time.
Held the movie back? Well I guess we will have to disagree on this one, when I watched overdrawn it actually made me feel that they had run out of movies to riff and that the show was fading, thats how bad that movie struck me
I’ve watched every MST episode in it’s entirety except for ‘Hamlet’. It’s so unwatchable and painfully boring that even riffing it doesn’t help. I’ve never watched that entire episode and I never will.
Wow, some of the movies that come up consistently are great. Ring of Terror is fantastic – it’s so innocent and charming and clueless, how can you not love it? Quick aside – why does no one mention that the plot is just a moldy old urban legend (which you can find a version of in Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark) blown up into untenable length? “Based on a true story” my ass!
People are slamming on Overdrawn – what? It’s GREAT! The stupid, faux-Orwellian technobabble alone makes this movie wonderful! Plus you’ve got Raul Julia slathering his ham all over the place, the skinny, be-moustached chick staring at nothing and digging in her ears, the doppling…my God, the doppling! People turning into animals – in the FUTURE!
Werewolf is fully redeemed by all the foreigners.
Future War is fully redeemed by dudes throwing empty cardboard boxes at each other.
I guess for the Sci Fi years I’d vote Incredibly Strange Creatures… as one of (if not the) worst. I paid how much money on Ebay for volume 9 and THIS abomination?
For the Comedy Central Years, I’ll be unorthodox and go with the Phantom Creeps (yes, not a movie per se, but when you add them all up…). Pretty much utterly unwatchable and unlistenable, especially compared to the pumpinheaded genius that is Commando Cody.
After considerable debate I would have to choose episode #208, Lost Continent. Just for the sheer boredom, yawning moments of the tedeous rock climbing scenes. I’m assuming it was just a filler to extend the movie but ,whew, I can’t watch that one again!
And for the shorts, I’ll go with Catching Trouble. Just an inhumane look at how people treated animals.
“Hobgoblins” redeems itself only because it’s soooooo bad that it seems to be in on the joke. Seriously, “Club Scum”? The incredibly fey, Max Melodramatic-like character who ends up making out with a waitress and utters the immortal line, “Oh, Pinky… Pinky!”? I really think the filmmakers knew they were making a huge piece of crap but hey, everyone was getting paid so why not have some fun with it? At least that’s what I tell myself when I’m alone… shivering… huddled under my covers…
Red Zone Cuba is just unwatchable. I can barely sit through it with JOKES. I also agree that “Creeping Terror” and “ISCWSLABMUZ” are horrendous wastes of celluloid. Nothing even vaguely entertaining about either of those movies on their own as well.
#111 – That was pseudo-intellectual wankery of the higest wankitude. Uh, “themes” in a Coleman Francis movie? Do “suck” and “fail” and “incoherence” count as themes?
Meadows: The Painted Hills is/was in the public domain, and it’s easy to select a movie that doesn’t have any pesky rights issues over one that does. It also made for great episode, as most of the more entertaining movies did.
Geez,where does one start when picking THE worst movie MST3K has done?? For me,it has to be “Beast of Yucca Flats” because it’s all over the place from the acting to the narration to the editing.”Manos” is an easy one because it plays like a bad home movie while try passing itself off as a horror movie…”The Creeping Terror” is too easy because of the lost dialogue and replaced by narration,but it is so-bad-it’s-good in a certain way,but I wouldn’t watch it without the riffing.Guess that makes sense..”Hobgoblins” is another attempt to cash in on the Gremlins/Munchies horror movie,but fails miserably,even though they knew they were making a piece of crap.I think they were trying to make it bad and it gets to the point of being annoying and irritating,which makes it less fun to watch.The characters were especially grating and wished they would’ve died sooner..I know there are more,but I think that’s enough for now.
Monster A-Go-Go is positively the worst piece of garbage I have ever seen. To me, there is nothing redeeming about it, and even Mike and the Bots couldn’t save it… I can’t remember even barely snickering at any part of it…
Hamlet isn’t far behind, and for that matter, The Brute Man…
( thinking about the Manos story itself and the home-made quality of the film… the unMSTd version might work as the opener in a double feature with The Blair Witch Project )
So many choices, so little time…
5. Ring of Terror – Plotless little sack of dog poopie indeed. It would be lower but the top-notch riffing saves it as an episode.
4. The Deadly Bees – The movie only needed to be as long as the exposition scene at the end, if even that.
3. Fire Maidens from Outer Space – Watch as the intrepid astronauts engage in sitting around, sitting around, and… more sitting around!
2. Radar Secret Service – I have a hard time watching this one because my brain likes to shut the movie out while still listening to the riffs. But then again anything else I make up in my mind would be better than the movie.
1. Manos: The Hands of Fate – This was the first and, to this day, only episode I could not stand to sit through and watch all the way without having to stop the movie and find something to refill the expanding void in my soul.
As bad as these are, a friend of mine insists that the movie “Ninja Empire” is the worst thing ever, but I have yet to track it down. Anyone else ever heard of it?
Top-notch riffing on Ring of Terror? I would never have taken much notice of MST3K if their riffing wasn’t consistently better than in that. Not that Ring of Terror gave them anything to sink their teeth into. Couple of chuckles, tops.
Beast of Yucca flats, hands down.
Here is my simple take on why Manos is the worst film ever.
Where I work, I ask people what the worst movie ever made was, or what was the worst movie they had ever seen. You get the usual: Ishtar, Battlefield Earth, “Plan 9”, etc.. Then I give them a copy of “Manos” to watch. Everyone of them changed their mind completely, saying there is nothing worse than Manos. The pacing. The dialogue. The horrid fight scenes. The insipid music. Torgo.
Every other movie listed here by people has at least some coherent dialogue, or some attempt at cinematic competency (even if it has little, such as “Monster A Go-go” or “Beast of Yucca Flats”). Manos has nothing. Nothing. It is devoid of thought and worth.
All of the other movies listed by people in this forum are, of course, terrible movies that numb the mind. But there is just something about Manos that sets it apart from every other movie made. It is in a league of its own.
I also have a friend who isn’t a big movie buff, but says this about Manos: “Manos is the worst movie ever made. I can’t tell you why. It just is.”
It just is.
Hamlet is basically a play filmed as a movie. The sets consist mostly of stone columns. It is a chore to sit through.
oh, to clarify – yes i know it was a play originally i mean filmed/staged pretty much like a play.
How about a run-off poll of the top contenders?
Since MST never riffed “Coyote Ugly,” I’m going to have to go with “Hamlet.” To take material that wonderful, and make a movie that bad is simply mind-blowing. “Final Justice” runs a close second just for being so Joe Don Bakerey.
And for those of you arguing that “Moster A-Go-Go” lacked a monster, it did, at least, have a bit of go-go. ;)
I don’t know about the worst movie ever but some that I found particularly aggravating were ‘Lost Continent’ (not so much for Rock Climbing, but more because the screenwriter thought he was witty), any Sandy Frank movie (especially the Gamera movies, which are like a living hell for someone who doesn’t like kids), ‘Monster A-Go-Go (for a variety of reasons, but mainly because of how dreary it was), ‘Alien from L.A.’ (for obvious reasons), and ‘Angels Revenge’ (it was almost as if Greydon Clark set out to find the worst actresses possible).
Most of the films suggested for the “worst movie” award are simply made by amateurs with no discernable vision or talent. It’s usually apparent, though, that at least one person involved cared enough to try to make it a decent movie. If you set out intending to make a good movie but fail, that’s bad enough. If you make an intentionally bad (cheesy) movie and it is indeed a failure, then that is sort of a win.
BUT…anyone stupid enough to TRY to make a bad movie and is so inept that they can’t even figure out how to do that — well, that’s a failed failure isn’t it?
WILD WORLD OF BATWOMAN – Only because it is the only failed failure I haven’t finished (+10 attempts!) because I fall asleep, even in the middle of the day.
HOBGOBLINS – The undisputed champ. This abomination even fails as a failed failure! I watched it once and swore I’d never watch it again, it made me so angry. Watched again on a bet that I wouldn’t be able to stand it again. Oh God. When that idiot realizes his dream by pretending to be the worst “singer” of all time AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FILM, I almost start to cry. It is the only thing I’ve ever seen in which I can feel myself getting stupider.
On the other hand, despite my loathing of all things Shakespeare, I actually enjoy Hamlet — or rather, it’s skewering — quite a bit, so there you go.
Somehow, I suspect Shakespeare would be enthralled with the MST3K version of Hamlet.
I forgot to put Castle of Fu Manchu on my list, and it absolutely needs to be there. Right down there with the worst.
It hasn’t been mentioned much in this thread (if at all), but Being from Another Planet is right there, too. No redeeming qualities at all. Even Ben Murphy himself can’t save it.
Funny, I was having a discussion with a friend about this recently. What makes a bad film good and why exactly do we watch bad films anyway?
Bad being just as subjective as good, it’s interesting to see a remarkable amount of consistency in the choices here. Many have centered on the technical aspects of films…or simply said the film is boring.
That said, nearly every film mentioned (or msted) is a joy to watch as far as I’m concerned. I find Manos, Red Zone Cuba, et al, exhilarating to watch. Whereas is you asked me to watch, say, Driving Miss Daisy (again)or Titanic or, gulp, a Peter Jackson movie I’d rather slit my wrists.
V. Nabokov once remarked that there is nothing more “exhilarating” than “philistine vulgarity” and I agree, whereas mediocrity (something mainstream Hollywood is amazingly consistent at bringing us) is like another small death in the world.
Mostj MSTed films have remarkable character–the sweaty, alcohol soaked, festering character of Coleman Francis, for example–and I salute them all.
Bad has character and mediocrity an untenable blandness…the reason the devil and hell get a lot of press but never purgatorio and the quiet unassuming priest who went through life doing nothing wrong, doing nothing much…at all.
So my pick for a film has NOTHING to do with these often-sighted reasons:
It was pointless: since when does a film have a point? Any film…
It has no plot or the plot is difficult to follow. Has anyone read Beckett? No plot but genius stuff. And Shakespeare’s plots were hokey, borrowed stuff (Dad’s a ghost, oh no!)but of course utterly redeemed by the poetry, making him the greatest writer of all time.
etc etc etc
No, I pick a Roger Corman film, because he is a Hollywood wannabe, neither and artist nor a character, just a bland salesman in a “director’s” suit who could have made “good” bad movies (just think how much fun Wild Angels would have been directed by Coleman Francis or that Hellcats guy!)but didn’t. Who even in interviews, seems like a dummy or a corpse being manipulated by some Wall Streeter who thinks grindhouse is where he’s getting his next porterhouse, or filet mignon.
I choose the worst of his offensive bland movies, movies so bland even MST couldn’t make them funny:
Gunslinger.
Right back in your face Corman…you…you…businessman!
Ok let me give some background as to why i picked Skydivers as it seems no one else even watched it (lucky, lucky people). I have seen everything MST3k and while everything you are saying is true one thing all these movies had was a spark that the guys at ‘best brain’ could work with and throw joke after rift at to make the movie watchable. A symbiosis if you will.
Skydivers did not have this spark and in fact was probably the slowest, dullest piece of work i have ever tried to watch. Though they tried their damnedest they could not make this movie watchable a feat they managed on almost every experiment (save maybe the castle of fu manchu, that is my my number two most loathed movie of all time). :oops:
Edit: Manny Sanguillen had seen it and basically covered me on this. he’s right, Red Zone Cuba and Beast of Yucca Flats are horrible and may have taken the focus off Skydivers. But remember there was something to work with in both movies that some how made them work out fine as experiments (if by just a barely passing grade hehe). For this one experiment, the magic just wasn’t and i charge the movie with full blame because they sure were trying.
Oxbowisamstie: Are you seriously suggesting that because most people aren’t agreeing with you about Skydivers that we must not have watched the episode? I personally find it hilarious and extremely watchable. It “sparks” just fine.
Skydivers is actually my favorite Coleman Francis movie, mainly because it’s just so… ODD.
All those weird extras (the scotsman, Huck Finn lady, Tom Boerwinkle, et al), the guy’s cheeks flapping in the wind, the car with the door that won’t close, “Coffee?… I like coffee,” the GREAT music by Jimmy Bryant.
Even disregarding the riffing, which is also terrific, I think it’s most fun, and the least depressing and bleak entry in the CF oeuvre.
It’s still terrible, of course, but it doesn’t hurt me the way RZC does.
@184 while the cinematic legacy of gamera is extremely dubious at best it shouldnt be judged by the sandy frank versions. no movie should be subjected to being cut to ribbons and dubbed into another language. though the thought of manos in japanese is strangely appealing :shock:
If KTMA episodes are excluded I stand by Monster A-Go-Go. I just watched it. The Hell! Coleman Francis’ movies were hatefull and horrible but at least they could at least conceivably be called movies. I don’t know what to call what I just watched, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a movie. Empire State and Sleep at least had some coherance
If KTMA episodes are in, the boobie prize might have to go to The Million Eyes of Su-Maru. I watched this once and haven’t been able to face it again. Made by the Castle of Fu Manchu crowd. It’s just as boring and less coherant. Humanoid Woman get’s a very close second for having a protagonist and color scheme that makes me feel inexplicably revolted, creeped out, sad, and nauseous. I’ve managed to stomach only two viewings of this episode.
Nothing I can add that hasn’t been said already, though I’ve watched nearly every episode I have multiple times no matter how bad the experiment, with the exception of Castle of Fu-Manchu. By now I just tune out after the first few segments, which do give them some good riffs. Surprised it didn’t drive the Brains to alcolohiism having to watch that more than once in the writing stage.
@193 Very true. The War of the Monsters dub of Gamera vs Barugon is actually watchable and a little entertaining. No kid and the voice actors take it seriously. Compare Colonel Sanders’s pinched high pitch or the tubby thief being played for “comic relief” vs the straighter readings. It works IMO since Barugon wasn’t as idiotic or goofy as the last three they did (espescially Zigra, my favorite).
Similarly maybe that’s why I like Hamlet. It wouldn’t make my top 100, but along with some decent sketches and a few good riffs (starring Tom Cruise) there’s Ricardo Montalban at least trying to deliver a performance while everyone else sleep-reads.
Just remembered another I can’t watch often, Gamera vs Guiron. But that’s more due to a character, that one kid’s mother who seems to think everything he says is some exaggerated fantasy. “Mom, the house is on fire!” “Oh you and your stories!”
Red Zone Cuba is superior to Monster A Go Go, based on my thin to non-existant understanding of film. You can make out kind of what’s happening in RZC, it has an actual ending, things happen. Monster A Go Go barely qualfies as a film at all. If it was of any poorer quality it would be a random series of bad polaroids stapled to a wall.
But I hear what people are saying w.r.t Red Zone Cuba. It is a dirty film. An oily smelly wretched thing. It’s like being locked in a closet with Aqualung. It makes us hate. Skydivers is Catalina Caper compared to Red Zone Cuba.
The only redeeming quality to RZC: Coleman does stop short of marrying a girl child to Satan.
Manos is slighty more depressing and Monster A Go Go is the worse film.
I’m throwing my support to “Hamlet”. How can you take a timeless classic, a genuine piece of art and turn it into…..that??? Simply awful. Close runner up would be “Overdrawn at the Memory Bank”….
Well, Monster A Go Go was started in the early 60’s by Bill Rebane, but he ran out of money partway in. It was later bought by H.G. Lewis, who filmed more footage several years later with completely different cast to “finish” the film. I’m pretty sure that’s why the monster just wasn’t there at the end. It helps me get through it if I just think of it not as a film, but a shoddy salvage job. Maybe that’s why RZC seems worse to me.
HAMLET! dear god was it bad, extra points on the Dr. Forester pain o’ meter. not only is it SOOOOO slow, but theres really no soundtrack to speak of. poorly lit, badly acted, not to mention that for one of the gratest dramas ever written supposedly, It is damn near un watchable. I fell asleep the first 6 times I watched it. Red Zone Cuba is secound place because it took me 4 attempts to finish it, sooo slow.
How can anyone down Manos when theres that stinkburger! the dead talk back was allso way dull.
to name one final movie that makes the cut of worst ever (drum roll please) ….. CAVEDWELLERS! funny but inbetween riffs my eyes get real heavy. (side note: that movie was my first rhyno VHS, also one of the 3 eppisodes ives seen over 50 times).
one more side note the magic sword is the eppisode ive seen the most, seriously ive got to be well into the hundreds at this poit. “it’s elimentry! , dogs just love new basil rathbones” “now in rasine stick flavor”
next discussion thread should be most watched eppisode, I need to know if im the only wacko whose watched certin epps over 20 times.