{"id":2723,"date":"2009-04-25T08:30:53","date_gmt":"2009-04-25T12:30:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/?p=2723"},"modified":"2009-04-24T19:36:06","modified_gmt":"2009-04-24T23:36:06","slug":"weekend-discussion-thread-the-taxonomy-of-riffs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/?p=2723","title":{"rendered":"Weekend Discussion Thread: The Taxonomy of Riffs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>In last week&#8217;s episode guide discussion thread, &#8220;Miqel&#8221; had some thought-provoking obervations: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Taxonomy of Riffs: Listing of Types of Riffs<br \/>\n\u2022 Title &#038; Credit Riffs &#8211; mostly puns, name juxtapositions\/combinations or pronunciation jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 References &#8211; literary, cultural, film, religious, historical, musical, political<br \/>\n\u2022 Ironic Humor &#8211; \u201cit\u2019s the music that makes this scene come to life\u201d &#8211; in a scene that is starkly silent<br \/>\n\u2022 Observational Humor &#8211; non-joke factual references to things about the film, example, \u201cthis film has certain flaws\u201d<br \/>\n\u2022 Advertising Related &#8211; product related jokes, sketches or jingles<br \/>\n\u2022 Music Riffs &#8211;<br \/>\n  &#8211; song lyrics, \u201cHey Joe\u201d &#8211; \u201cWhere ya goin\u2019 with that gun in your hand\u201d<br \/>\n  &#8211; hummed or sung melodies &#8211; examlpe, humming batman Tv show theme, refueling music from skydivers<br \/>\n  &#8211; Musician riffs &#8211; examlpe: singing REM songs when character onscreen resembles Michael Stipe<br \/>\n\u2022 Jokes<br \/>\n  &#8211; Ironically lame or old jokes \u201ctake my wife, please\u201d<br \/>\n  &#8211; \u201cinside\u201d jokes relating to regional or cultural beliefs<br \/>\n\u2022 Puns<br \/>\n\u2022 Line Finishing &#8211; example; \u2018I\u2019m not a medium\u2019 &#8211; &#8211; \u201cI\u2019m a petite\u201d<br \/>\n\u2022 Drug, Hippie &#038; 60\u2019s &#8211; allusions, sight gags, puns &#038; Jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 Alcohol &#038; Drunk jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 Oblique Sexual References &#8211; including crossdressing, GLBT and gender jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 Crass Humor &#8211; jokes that are sorta cruel and mean<br \/>\n\u2022 Juvenile Humor &#8211; timeless fart, pee and poop jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 Playground Humor &#8211; really simple childrens jokes<br \/>\n\u2022 Micro-Specialized Humor &#8211; such as JFK riffs only meaningful to well read assasination conspiracy researchers<br \/>\n\u2022 Synonyms and Homonyms &#8211; Fun with language riffs.<br \/>\n\u2022 Ruthless put-downs<br \/>\n\u2022 Repeating Riffs<br \/>\n  &#8211; Callback lines taken from riffed films,<br \/>\n  &#8211; Callback jokes or lines taken from previous episodes<br \/>\n  &#8211; Callback lines taken from non-riffed popular films or culture<br \/>\n\u2022 Non-Film Related Non-Riffs<br \/>\n  &#8211; when they discuss stuff amongst themselves while in the theater,<br \/>\n  &#8211; Also times where they \u2018loose it\u2019 and go crazy, try to escape or bawl during ruthlessly bad films<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Would you make any changes? Did he leave any out?<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s my contribution, though I can&#8217;t claim credit for thinking it up. A good buddy of mine once described what he called the three levels of reference riffs.<br \/>\n\u2022 Level one is a straight reference that fully explains itself. Example: A latina is singing on screen and somebody riffs &#8220;It&#8217;s Gloria Estefan!&#8221; The lady looks like a popular culture figure, and you&#8217;ve observed that. Mildly funny (a.k.a. the &#8220;state park joke&#8221;).<br \/>\n\u2022 Level two makes a reference without explaining what the reference is to. Example, in the same scene: &#8220;Where&#8217;s the Miami Sound Machine?&#8221; The lady looks like a popular culture figure and you&#8217;ve observed that indirectly. Moderately funny.<br \/>\n\u2022 Level three, the level that makes MST3K great and separates it from what most other riffers do, takes the reference one level further by adding a witty twist: Example (from episode 204- Catalina Caper, in which the latina singer saves the mood of the party): &#8220;Hey, it&#8217;s Gloria Estefan and the Catalina Deus Ex Sound Machina!&#8221; That&#8217;s (at least) three jokes in 11 words, people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>In last week&#8217;s episode guide discussion thread, &#8220;Miqel&#8221; had some thought-provoking obervations: <\/p>\n<p>The Taxonomy of Riffs: Listing of Types of Riffs \u2022 Title &#038; Credit Riffs &#8211; mostly puns, name juxtapositions\/combinations or pronunciation jokes \u2022 References &#8211; literary, cultural, film, religious, historical, musical, political \u2022 Ironic Humor &#8211; \u201cit\u2019s the music that [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2723","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-msties","odd"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2723","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2723"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2723\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2723"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2723"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.mst3kinfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2723"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}