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They tried, they really did. But they could only do so much with the material. It felt as soggy as the movie setting was. Stick with movies under two hours, guys. We need the shorts. Bring back Rifftones songs too. The cartoon theme song is cute, though. I liked seeing all the characters from other movies pop in, like Torgo and The Guy from Harlem.
The Park Place theater in Tucson, AZ was not very full. That seems to be par for the course for Rifftrax Live shows.
This was my first time seeing Godzilla 98. At about the 1:30 mark I groaned inwardly, wishing I could be sleeping instead. What a horrible, horrible, horrible movie. There is not a single, solitary CG shot that looks even remotely good, and I doubt they would have looked good even in 1998. No one is cast appropriately in this movie. Broderick in particular is about the limpest, lamest action hero imaginable.
As far as the jokes went, we in the theater were all pretty silent, with only the occasional laugh. I’d say for every good joke there were five or six that sunk without a trace. All in all, a disappointing show, I’d say.
In Foxborough MA, I thought that the loudness of the movie overwhelmed Mike, Bill and Kevin on numerous occasions. I also found this the case during “Starship Troopers.”
I know it’s tough to balance the boys and the loud, “action” movies, but here’s hoping it can be done a bit better. After all, I’d much rather hear THEM than all of that rubbish.
Other than that (and the last ten minutes going blank though being replayed), despite the fact that it wasn’t a laugh a minute like “Sharknado,” it was still a good time. I
didn’t see the movie when it came out, so I just couldn’t believe the total lack of ANY kind of acting by Broderick….
Just wanted to throw in my two cents that I laughed harder at this outing than any other Rifftrax in quite a while (Live or not), I’m a bit of a kaiju fan so I really wanted to see this mockery mocked, the riffing was well-paced and delivered about as many good lines in the second half as in the first, and my only issue was that I missed close to half the jokes because of the sound issues. Still worth the price of admission for the great lines I did hear, but rather disappointing at the same time.
OK, maybe that was four cents.
Anyway, great work, and if all Rifftrax were this good I’d be pretty damn happy.
In Clifton, NJ-about 75-80% capacity. Crowd reaction was a little subdued, sometimes the film
noise drowned out the Riffs, but I believe it was not hearing the laughs from the live audience
that kept the energy level low, along with the dark,rainy listlessness of the movie. When I saw this
pic at the old Amboy Cineplex (since closed, now in ruins…) back in ’98, I thought it was one of the worst movies ever…fifteen years of Wahlbergs, Stathams,LaBeoufs and Kardasians hasn’t
edged it’s dullness.
What did we learn? buying ads at MSG are a waste…Blockbuster and Josta have bitten the dust…I half-expected billboards for the Zune, OK Soda and Sen. Alphonse D’Amato…
Riffwise, I was surprised at obscure (for me) references, i.e. Ignateus J. Riley and Douglas
Adams- I like when they don’t “dumb it down” even if I have to look them up on Google occasionally. Favorites: “I look like the kids from the Houses of the Holy album cover” and
“now they’ll be a forced apology to sea cucumbers”; (shot of a roofless church)”if Woody Allen
went to confession” / Whenever they showed the dinosaur eggs cracking open, I kept wondering if
we would hear “Nanu-Nanu”, but I guess they didn’t want to take a risk…P.S. Everytime a skyline
shot showed the World Trade Center, everyone got quiet…I hope that feeling never goes away…
In the minority here, but my wife and I had a fantastic time and laughed throughout. I was wondering how such a New York-centric movie with a lot of New York-centric riffs would go down in the rest of the country and from the comments, it appears … not too well.
But we enjoyed the hell out of all the local references.
The Union Square theater was, as usual, pretty much full.
Boy, did that movie live down to its reputation. Every few minutes I just had to lean over to my wife and mutter, This really IS a complete piece of ****! She could only agree.
I too wish there was a more careful hand on the sound mixing. This has been a recurring problem with the Rifftrax VODs as well, though the latest (Yellow Beast or whatever — another John Ashley Filipino movie) has the opposite of the usual problem — the movie is almost inaudible for long stretches, so if you turn it up, the riffers are practically screaming loud.
Sound mixing is crucial for these things — they really need to get it right.
Dear God, what a slog that movie was! I’d never seen it before and the sort of “false ending” where you think that once they blow up Madison Square Garden the film is over made me want to stab my eyes out with a fork. Had really bad sound problems at first at our theater but I went out to the lobby and got them to fix it. Then it was too loud but I wasn’t going to complain again.
Also at he San Diego show with the theater 4/5 full. Good show with consistent humor but no real memorable lines. Nothing I will quote in other movies. I missed Sharknado but I am sure it is easier to get high energy in a tornado movie. This film, like Titanic, is deliberately paced so the energy level is moderate. Still, the crew did a good job. I always liked this version of Godzilla with the exception of the speed of the monster. Big things like that do not move that fast.
The riffing was consistent but I was interested in the number of Bush era jokes they are still using. Has nothing happened in the last six years to generate comedic comments? I understand the political slant, but you can’t just ignore your party’s gaffs particularly if you are going to revisit the past political well. Minor point usually, but it becomes more and more apparent as time moves on.
I was surprised that they did not tell viewers to come back in October for Anaconda. It is not like they don’t know the next movie they are going to Riff. There was a Fandago ad before the show, but nothing from the guys. I thought that was odd.
Richard #58, they did mention Anaconda. In the beginning.
I thought it was great — I laughed all the way through. Just wish they had a little more introduction and lead in before starting the main feature riffing.
GLORY HOLE OF THE GODS!!!!!
got the most laughs where i saw the film.
Yes, Glory Hole of the Gods was great!
Also, when all the baby dinos were chasing our heroes through the deserted corridors of MSN and Bill said something like, “well, there’s only one thing missing,” and started singing the Benny Hill chase music — I howled. Also, the 3 Stooges-y, “Hellooooo hellooooo helloooooo!”
Also, near the beginning when we first see ‘Zilla head-on and I think it was Bill said something like, “Oh my God, it’s huge … oh wait, that’s his tail.”
The Woody Allen line.
Also, I love Harry Shearer but did he suck in this or what!?
It was ok. The guys REALLY need someone controlling the mix on the fly if they’re going to do 90’s blockbusters, which love to cut from whispering and mumbling talky scenes to DEAFENING GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS. That, combined with the length of the movie made for one of my lesser favorite RT experiences. Also, by not showing the riffers and the Belcourt very often, it made me feel like I was less a part of the event, and more like I was just watching from home. Fortunately, there were a number great riffs here and there. The Stooges riff saved the ending for me, making it worth waiting for the film to conclude.
surprise they didn’t say anything about the nuclear tests at the beginning. the footage was all of american test and not french. here is a french test (via youtube). also via youtube the die hard 2 dub parts (from the things before show)
a french nuclear test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YsZP-m7nc4
die hard 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuQP4d_r_Gs
I enjoyed it but was really distracted by the sound.
Have to echo what everyone else is saying. It’s the single most critical thing – we have to be able to hear Mike, Bill and Kevin and that was a struggle. This really has to be fixed.
Less important, but, still something worth mentioning: one of my favorite elements of the live shows is showing the riffers visually. Wished there was more of that.
Of course, the big caveat: it’s always great to get new Rifftrax content and I love Mike, Kevin and Bill.
would love to see them do a gamera film (a newer one since sandy frank might not let them).
ok my second comment. I forgot to mention there were audio level issues. I don’t think it was so much a rifftrax side of things, but the actual godzilla movie- from whisper to WHAM IN YOUR FACE ARE YOUR EARS BLEEDING YET. I think a shorts intermission would be good on a long stinkburger. I go to the Redford Theatre in Detroit (classic movie house) They always have an intermission- an actual intermission. good for pee breaks. but I think a short or pause for dumb godzilla trivial would have been welcomed… how do you say— host segments;)
I won’t get to see the Godzilla riff live (no participating theaters near me), but I contributed to the Kickstarter campaign anyway, and I increased my contribution later to help them reach the stretch goal for Anaconda. I wanted to help them make it happen, and synching the MP3 to my Godzilla DVD is good enough for me.
Since I haven’t seen it yet, I don’t have an opinion on the quality of the riffing. Reading over the responses, though, I’ve noticed two things:
1) It seems that those who came away disappointed would have been happier, even without any changes to the jokes, if it weren’t for the audio problems and the sheer length of the film. The latter was probably something that Rifftrax couldn’t do anything about (their license may have prohibited them from editing the film for length), and the former won’t be an issue for those of us who will be synching the MP3 and DVD at home. Perhaps someone will produce a unified (and shorter) “fan edit” at some point.
2) The Rifftrax guys have said in interviews that they went after Godzilla in the first place because it was a film that lots of people had long been clamoring for, and it came about thanks to a high-profile Kickstarter campaign, so I think there may have been unrealistically high expectations going into it. Ironically, if there was any mistake made by Rifftrax along the way, it was the decision to give the audience exactly what they wanted.
I’m reminded in an odd way of the debut of The Film Crew on DVD: when the four Film Crew riffs were being readied for release, they were opened up to a vote, with the order of votes received determining the release order. The top vote-getter, and thus the first to be released, was “Hollywood After Dark”, a lurid and notoriously bad movie featuring Rue McClanahan as a stripper. That must have sounded promising to all the fans who made it the top vote-getter, but after all were released, “Hollywood After Dark” was pretty consistently rated the lowest of the four.
(There … I’ve finally drawn an analogy between a bad CGI Godzilla and a stripping Rue McClanahan. I can finally scratch that one off my bucket list!)
I guess the lesson here is to be careful what you wish for: even with the best possible writing, movies that seem like they’d be great source material for riffing don’t always turn out to be as awesome as everyone anticipates. As the old business adage says, sometimes the key to success is not to give your customers what they claim to want, but to figure out what they really want before they even know it and to give them that instead. I think MST3K succeeded in doing this with movies like “Manos: The Hands of Fate” and “Monster a-Go Go”. Before those episodes aired, I doubt that anybody was clamoring to see those movies on MST3K–hardly anybody even knew they existed–and yet they are regarded as “classics” today.
I can’t help but wonder if going after recent big-budget Hollywood blockbusters is a bridge too far for an enterprise like Rifftrax. For all the money that Godzilla must have cost them, they probably could have riffed a dozen public-domain movies and shorts, perhaps discovering the next “Norman” or “Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny” in the process.
Our theater in Monaca, PA was not as full as the Sharknado show, which was the largest crowd we’ve ever had.
I liked the animated intro and enjoyed seeing Torgo in that group.
I have to agree with some others here that I’m not a big fan of 90s action movies (or any expensive movie for that matter). They seem to be picking a lot of nature-gone-wild movies with loud scenes that at times drown out the riffing. I would like to see them mix in a few more oldies, black n white (or not), but cheaply made and cheesy please!
My favorite riffs: the Woody Allen riff, the moose knuckle, and the Dr. Strangelove reference about the war room (which nobody in our theater got, except me and my sister).
Also, on a side note, we practically cried when they showed Godzilla checking on his dead offspring :(
I see what jaybird3rd is saying with how “Godzilla” turned out. I knew it would be a challenge after I saw it unriffed last week. Man, what a slog, and Emmerich just had to add chunks of Jurassic Park and Sleepless in Seattle to the script. The boys still did a good job, and got in some good comments about New York and how physically fit the 1998 Godzilla looked compared to the one we got a few months back. I’d like to see them take on more “major” movies, but hopefully those that are two hours or less. It’s almost a given “Sharknado 2” may be a future selection.
As to the selection of movies: if they’re going to Kickstart to widen the net beyond the public domain, they have to pick something that stands the highest chance of getting butts in seats. Somewhat perversely, that means picking the most widely known or buzzy movies rather than the most deserving.
Personally, I’d rather see the guys stick with the public domain, as there are TONS of obscure, weird, but totally hilarious films that cry out for riffing (the Mill Creek dump DVDs are full of good fodder, e.g., R.O.T.O.R.). But I guess that’s what the VOD is for.
I enjoyed myself and agree with Nick-O. I thought they did a great job with it.
I will also agree that the battle scenes drowned out some of the riffing, but all in all worth my time and money.
Thanks, guys!!
I had a great time with my wife. Yes, the movie was too long and there were some sound issues, but that didn’t ruin things.
I’d never seen this version of Godzilla before, and while far from being a great movie, or even a good one, I thought it wasn’t nearly as bad as its reputation would have you believe. Let me put it this way, without riffing I would rather see this Godzilla three times in a row than a single Transformer sequel.
maybe they can do citizen kane or casablanca. if citizen kane, when wells said, rosebud, mike or keven should say, its the sled, goodnight everyone and they all pretend to walk off.
Oh, and during the title cards, they played two of my favorite Weird Al songs: “Yoda” and “Jurassic Park”. I also liked the song parody of “Pacific Rim”, but I didn’t catch who did that one.
I feel bad for anyone who walked out
For me, the show really picked up in the second half, when the previously bad movie became megacheese. That scene where the characters drive the taxi cab out of Godzilla’s mouth is as campy as anything in Sharknado.
Watching this movie really made me reflect on how awful 90s disaster movies were. The characters are insufferable! At least in the disaster movies of the 50s/60s the character development usually revolved around learning a meaningful inner strength–they didn’t distill a character down to one idiotic, meaningless semi-professional goal (as here, the lady wanted to helm a news cast, or in The Lost World, Harriet the Spy’s friend wanted to show her gymnastics skills….yuck). And why Frenchmen? Was there a Frenchmen fad in the summer of ’98? I think the guys actually went a little easy on this one. What a terrible movie
I almost would’ve like to have seen a cut-down version of the movie–trimming it down to 90 minutes, say, like they’d do for MST. It might have left out some of the less-cheesy parts and given them time for a short.
Regardless, I had a lot of fun. Anyone on the fence should see the re-airing on Tuesday.
Favorite line: “This is what happens when Woody Allen goes to confession”
re: #25 Stacia: “The sound wasn’t terrible but I missed a couple of jokes because of it, including one when Broderick was buying pregnancy test kits and someone says something about not recognizing him? Anyone remember that?”
That was a reference to the “You’re my favorite customer” scene in THE ROOM
I was one of the biggest defenders of RT’s choice of “Sharknado” early on, and after the initial gasp, most people were pleased with the show. (I’m a film critic so I had some colleagues get pretty cranky about RT’s choice, but as a film critic I can safely say most of us can be safely ignored; if the fans liked “Sharknado,” then that’s all that counts.) Also, at least half the crowd in my theater were also there for the “Starship Troopers” showing, so I think fans are okay with new films, and aren’t just grousing that they’re not getting what they’re used to from old MST3K episodes.
One thing I remember from MST fandom was that nearly everyone had one or two episodes where the movie was so dire they just couldn’t get through the riffed versions. That’s all that this is, I think: a case of a movie being so dull and awful that even the jokes can’t keep some of us awake.
@Zee – Thank you! That explains the “I didn’t recognize you” bit I heard, which is pretty much all I caught.
My theater in Manchester CT was just about 3/4 full for Godzilla. Sound was off for the first portion but, got better as it went. Was never great, tho. I agree with others that the movie was way too long and wished it could have been edited down some. I’m sure that was out of the question contractually tho. The riffing was good throughout but, not as good as Starship Troopers or even Sharknado. Would definitely see the encore if only my theatre was showing it. This was the first time I saw this film since it’s release and it was even more awful than I remembered. Stupid dialogue, hammy acting and a director with a grudge against all things American. I think the guys could have really destroyed this one if they had wanted.looking forward to anaconda next month!
Theater in holmdel ,nj was almost full. It was great! My wife had never seen the movie and wondered how anyone could watch it without the riff. We even enjoyed the slams on nj. The trivia started a bit late (about 5 minutes before the show). Some sound issues in the beginning but it was soon under control.
Favorite riff was when Godzilla threw himself onto a building. Kevin yelled, “How about you buy that building a drink first!”.
Correction- the theater was in Hazlet, nj.
Forgot how bad that movie was!
I laughed out loud a total of six times, partly because the soundtrack of the movie was so loud, I could not make out the riffs. Was at Regal 24, Atlanta. Theatre 1/4 full. Multiple times in the last hour I wished it were already over.
The sound mixing problems that occur while live-riffing these larger-budgeted movies really need to be addressed. There were some great riffs, but if they can’t be heard, it defeats the purpose. I’m sure I would have enjoyed the show more if the mix had been better.
This movie hurt me bad. OMG. I too kept wishing it would end already. I groaned when I saw they had to kill all the small creatures and then groaned again when they STILL had more movie–I reckon the guys did the best they could, but yeesh. Jean Reno and the jokes about him were funny though, and I thought the observation that Matthew Broderick looked like a teen for a long time and then suddenly looks fifty was a little mean, but totally apt. (Sorry Matthew! I still like you.)
My wish for future a Rifftrax Live show would be them doing a whole bunch of shorts. I love shorts!
@Kenneth Morgan: It’s by Mike Phirman (Chris Hardwick’s old comedy partner as “Hard ‘n Phirm) and called “Not This Time”.
Not my favorite, but when they made the “Turkey Volume Guessing Man” callback with the eggs, I just about died. It was veiled, but I knew what it was, then had to explain it to my friends, which was weird.
Really disappointed in it. The soundtrack was way too loud and the riffers were so low that I couldn’t hear them a lot of the times. I’ll see it again Tuesday and this time sit in the middle. Maybe it was where I was sitting that made the difference. (Off to the side). :-(
About 3/4 full theater in Amarillo. The sound was quiet in our theater but the riffing was louder than the movie which helped but still very quiet. I haven’t watched this version of Godzilla since it came out in theaters in 1998. I remember it being stupid and not much like Godzilla but good grief I didn’t remember how dull this movie is. I definitely agree with others that this was more a mediocre outing for Rifftrax. I think a combination of this movie being overly long and boring just killed most of it. There were a lot of great riffs though so all in all not bad. I think Anaconda will be fantastic though. As fun as it is getting “blockbuster” movies and newer stuff like Sharknado I hope we get some more cheesy older movies again.
From the reviews above it seems RT needs to concentrate on live-riffing movies they can do anything they like with, and back off on recent movies where they can’t edit out boring bits & control their own sound, etc.
Both Rifftrax and CT seem to have trouble doing the sound on these live theater riffs, when I saw CT last year I couldn’t hear half the riffs for The Doll House and I saw that complaint here a lot from other people who went to the show. I watched the recent Rifftrax VOD Bride of the Beast and that one had the riffers’ volume way too high and the movie was barely audible. Rifftrax (and I would include CT in this if they were still going) really need to either have rehearsals or learn how to record things better. This didn’t happen much with MST and the technology was a lot older then so there is really no excuse for it.
When do the kickstarters get their copy of the rifftrack?
I’m going to the repeat broadcast tonight – here’s hoping that they will have corrected the audio problems over the last few days! I’m not expecting that but it would be nice.
Hopefully my expectations are set appropriately after reading this thread. I have a feeling that a large portion of the disappointed viewers went in with high expectations, which is understandable considering RiffTrax’s track record. High expectations can ruin an experience, though. If you go in with very high expectations, at best your expectations will be met but more likely you’ll be disappointed. If your expectations are low, at worst your expectations will be confirmed, but at best you’ll be pleasantly surprised and possibly have your expectations wildly exceeded. In other words, keep your expectations low and you won’t be disappointed.
As for the movie selection, obviously the guys chose it because it was notoriously bad, but even more to capitalize on the renewed interest in Godzilla with the release of the (completely awesome) new movie. I can’t blame them at all for that decision; it seemed like a slam dunk. Obviously they didn’t actually write the riffs until after the Kickstarter was done and they were already committed, so they probably didn’t know what a slog it would be. Hindsight is 20/20. I’m sure I’ll get enough laughs out of it to get my money’s worth.
On the audio level discrepancies, that is one of the disadvantages of trying to do these movies live, especially in an action movie with huge swings in audio levels. As someone above stated, they were probably prohibited from editing the film in any way, and that may have extended to modifying the audio at all. Still, you’d think they could have gotten away with having someone on the mixing board dropping the movie’s volume during some of the louder parts.
As for technology solving that problem, I can tell you from my experience combining the MP3 riffs with the movies to make my own “VOD” versions, it isn’t that easy. I did Iron Man last week, another action movie with some very loud sequences. It took me several mixes to get it right. I had to compress the volume levels to keep the riffs and the movie at understandable volumes, which is a tough balance. I also used “audio ducking” to automatically reduce the volume of the movie when the riffers were talking. Ducking is done in post-production, not live. If they weren’t allowed to compress the volumes of the movie, problems with riffs being drowned-out by the movie were almost inevitable.
Caught the re-run. Had a great time overall and the guys were in fine form, but I agree: the movie is too bland, pointless and lengthy for this one to really catch third gear. 139 straight minutes of inert Emmerich dog food is just too much in any context. I think a short plus a feature that caps out at 90 minutes is the perfect ticket for these shows.
I don’t really fault the guys on this one. The writing was there, but the movie’s really got to engage on some level – whether it be the aggressive, mugging absurdity of Sharknado, the interesting weirdness of the legitimate cult movies, etc – for these things to really sing. Godzilla doesn’t even succeed at being a diverting trainwreck; it’s boring.
Saw the repeat tonight and had a great time. Low expectations FTW! :-D
Since yesterday I’ve watched four iterations of Godzilla (Gojira, Godzilla: King of Monsters, Godzilla 2014, and tonight Godzilla 1998). All but one were great movies. Even KoM was decent, if nowhere near as classic as the original. Been a fun couple days, really.
My experience with tonight’s show sounded better than a lot of you. Light turnout but everyone seemed to have a good time. There was a bit of an echo with the movie’s audio at the beginning of the show but no terrible audio problems like others reported. In a couple places my friend and I had to fill in the other on a riff they didn’t catch but that’s it. I expected not to laugh much but I LOLed throughout. I was glad that they included a Godzookie reference :)
Now I can’t wait for Anaconda. Get here already, October!
Light turnout at my local theater tonight. Some good moments in spite of the occasional hard to hear riff. I can’t believe they didn’t do a Squirm callback in the opening scenes. The movie wasn’t as bad as I remembered, but it’s a bit bloated for this sort of thing. Some of that cutting edge CGI didn’t age too well!
I did really enjoy the new animated intro. I didn’t even spot a certain satellite until I watched it again on Youtube though. ;)
We went to the encore last night, thought it was very funny, but not quite as good as Sharknado. Some of the comments on here gave me low expectations, but was pleasantly surprised, also we didn’t seem to have the audio problems that some theaters did. Will probably skip the next one due to low snake tolerance, but we’ll see. All in all a good time had.
My wife and I attended the encore in Clifton, NJ and had a great time. This wasn’t in their upper tier of live events, but it was certainly enjoyable, and the guys looked like they were having fun. My only (halfhearted) gripes:
1. The theme song is a nice idea, but it makes me cringe. It seems self-congratulatory instead of ironic.
2. After doing this many live events, there’s just no excuse for such violent shifts in sound quality. I missed a good 20 – 30 percent of the evening’s riffs. Granted, “Godzilla” is a LOUD NINETIES MOVIE!!!, but their sound engineers should’ve found some way to work around that. (Just a note: I don’t buy that they weren’t able to fiddle with the movie at all, since several shots were adjusted to block out advertisers and shots of the pre-9/11 WTC. I know several were left in, but lots more were cropped out — I don’t blame them.)
The highlight of the night for me was the Turkey (Egg) Volume Guessing Man callback. That’s an obscurity only a MSTie could love!
We had audio issues in Des Moines. Early on it was tough to make out the movie itself, then later the noise of the movie drowned out riffs.
Speaking of which, there was a riff mentioning Des Moines that I only sort of caught. Something about “covering pie-eating contests in Des Moines.” Can anyone recall what it was?
The audience gave it no reaction, which surprised me since “I’ll gas up in Des Moines” got huge reactions every time I saw MST3K: The Movie. I would guess no one else in my theater caught the full riff either.