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Weekend Discussion Thread: Film/Short Crossovers

Alert regular Ken writes:

Which movie characters would you like to see make cameo appearances in the shorts, and what would they do? Me, I can imagine Torgo paying Nick a visit in “What To Do on a Date” and showing him how to put all those wicked hand moves on the ladies, so that when things were swinging into high at the wienie roast he would know exactly what to do.

I’m going to expand this and also ask what characters from shorts would you like to see in a MSTed movie? For example, wouldn’t it be great if the escapees from “Swamp Diamonds” stumbled upon Ross Allen from “Catching Trouble”? Ross and Touch would eventually have it out for sure, while Emo made his move on their llllladies.

What would YOU like to see?

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  1. Murdock Hauser says:

    I’d like to see Mr. B team up with Santa Claus to conquer the martians.

       6 likes

  2. Steve K says:

    Me, I’d like to see the scenes where the G-Men (and separately, the crooks) from Radar Secret Service visit their local Chevrolet dealers from Hired to purchase a large quantity of gray, indistinguishable car/truck-type vehicles. So many questions will be answered, like:

    What does the truck data book have to say about the safe transport of large quantities of radioactive materials?

    What’s the best way to safely attach a large silver globe to the top of your vehicle?

    Will a government fleet contract be able to compensate for Jimmy’s otherwise dismal selling record?

    and, of course,

    Can I … keep the pen?

       9 likes

  3. Kansas says:

    Pilot Pete from Painted Hills would visit Out of This World and perform an exorcism on the devil trying to lead bread salesmen into tempation.

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  4. Fart Bargo says:

    I’ll go with Max Keller making one of his hero speeches in Speech: Using Your Voice. I’ll never understand why the producers thought that Van Patton’s speech impediment could be over come on film?! I’m not mocking the actor, just the colossal stupidity of the producers who put him in that mess.

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  5. Garza says:

    Coily teams up with Donald Pleasance in an effort to destroy the world by controlling the Pumaman and monopolizing springs across the globe. There would be no stopping their reign of terror.

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  6. Mibbitmaker says:

    Mr. B Natural becomes the spirit that haunts Tom Stewart on behalf of Vi. Of course, Tom jumps from the lighthouse to his death just to escape Mr. B way too early in the film, making it a short in its own right.

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  7. ck says:

    Mr. B Natural could pay a visit to the GORE movie. Of course,
    you’d get into some really kinky interactions. Perhaps the
    trainer of zebras in Circus on Ice could drop by and give her
    some tips.

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  8. Viking Woman says:

    Coily the Spring Sprite would be right at home with his fellow demonic entities in Merlin’s Shop of Mystical Wonders.

    Also, Dr Z and Bela Lugosi’s Phantom Creeps character would probably have fun sashaying through the sarcasm together.

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  9. Mibbitmaker says:

    Mibbitmaker:
    Mr. B Natural becomes the spirit that haunts Tom Stewart on behalf of Vi. Of course, Tom jumps from the lighthouse to his death just to escape Mr. B way too early in the film, making it a short in its own right.

    In “Tormented”, of course. I wasn’t allowed to edit my comment for some reason (likely my f’ed up computer these days)

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  10. Edwin B says:

    The huge, hulking robot from The Phantom Creeps visits Ro-Man from Robot Monster and they try to decide who is more ridiculous looking!

       6 likes

  11. TheAngryBanjo says:

    Godzilla Vs. Gamera Vs. Gorgo: Battle for the Fate of Earth!

    A miracle of fate and licensing bring these titans together for a battle to decide, once and for all, who is top monster!

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  12. MSTie says:

    I’d put Mitchell into the short “Snow Thrills” and make him try every winter sport, just so I could watch him crash over and over and over. The ski jumping and the bobsled would be particularly satisfying. For me, not Mitchell.

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  13. robniles says:

    Mr. B Natural doing an interpretive dance of one of Arch Hall, Jr.’s party jams. Or Mr. B prancing around Club Scum in “Hobgoblins.” Or shaking what his/her mama gave him/her in the Haunted House from “Girl in Gold Boots.”

    Mr. B Natural in anything, really. Couldn’t have made “Red Zone Cuba” any worse, you know?

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  14. sol-survivor says:

    Jimmy from I Accuse My Parents can become Other Jimmy from the Hired! shorts. They already kind of look alike, and with Jimmy’s gift of gab he should have no problem replacing Other Jimmy and selling cars door to door. Other Jimmy should be able to sell shoes without those pesky mob ties. They’d have to fight it out for Kitty, but I don’t think either Jimmy could win a fight, even with each other.

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  15. Green Luthor says:

    Valeria from Robot Holocaust (“Yew an yer daater ur DEWMED”) in Speech – Using Your Voice.

    I Accuse My Parents crosses over with A Date With Your Family.

    Body Care & Grooming with Torgo. Or Eegah. Or Coleman Francis. Or Joe Don Baker. Or… well, you get the idea.

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  16. Son of Peanut says:

    Who is the real Chicken of Tomorrow? Why Krankor, of course! “That’s an egg I wouldn’t mind having. I like it very much!”

    Also, what would happen if cute little Johnny at the Fair had instead gone to see Gorgo at Dorkin’s circus? “Jiminy,” thinks Johnny, “I wonder what it would be like to get a ride on one of those?”

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  17. Son of Peanut says:

    It might be fun to see the guardian ghost from “X Marks the Spot” attempt to defend the werewolf security guard who crashes his car in “Werewolf”. “It wasn’t my client’s fault, your honor. While’s its true he had a cocktail or two that evening, he had no way of knowing that his drink had been spiked with essence of werewolf.”

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  18. Steve K says:

    @Son of Peanut (#16)

    “Your eggs are useless against me!”

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  19. agentmom says:

    I’d like to see the skaters from “Circus on Ice” show up in “The Day the Earth Froze” and start skating to the “All Skate” music Idominen(spl?)starts playing on his kantele(spl?).

    Can you imagine the looks on both the evil trolls faces and the good guys face as all those skaters show up, skate/dancing around, to the music. And there would be a spotlight on the “dying fawn” skater.

    That would be rich!

    Oh, and in a double Crossover (just thought about it). The “Polar Bear Club” from Winter Sports short would show up, break through the ice and start frolicking in the freezing water.

    Then everyone on both sides would really look confused!

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  20. MarcusVermilion says:

    Mr. B. Natural winds up at The Master’s place in “Manos”. The low budget jazz soundtrack would be replaced with high school marching band music. See the hilarity as Torgo tries to do his hair fondling act of Mr. B. (“Now! Now! We’ll have none of that!”) We’ll also see the Brides of Manos go into an all out brawl after arguing if Mr. B. is a man or a woman!

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  21. EricJ says:

    Aw, is this another “Character toybox” thread? Saw the header and thought this was about the movie riffs where they did callbacks from the shorts–
    Like the two police knocking on Bela’s door in “Bride of the Monster”, and inside we hear, “No, I don’t want to buy a Chevrolet!”

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  22. Flying Saucers Over Oz says:

    Well, Jimmy from I ACCUSE MY PARENTS could be haunted by the teacher from the CHEATING short…

    Or maybe Cooter could help the guy from ONCE UPON A HONEYMOON with his song-writing problems… Yeah, I know, what am I saying?

    Torgo and Mister B Natural are inevitable. After all, s/he embodies the spirit of music and he has his own theme song.

    And crossing over two shorts, let’s see the salesmen from HIRED! cope with the dancing housewife from DESIGN FOR DREAMING. I mean, I know they want enthusiastic customers, but this is ridiculous…

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  23. Dr. Erickson says:

    I would like to see Judy’s brother in “Young Man’s Fancy” bring Eegah home instead of Alexander Phipps for her to throw herself at. (“Ooh, when he paws me and mutters ‘schtemlow’ I just get all squishy!”) The scene where he borrows the dad’s razor would be much longer, of course.

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  24. dickweed1 says:

    You were close,Sampo..where we want Ross and Emo to show up would be in the middle of BLOOD LUST!!! The Hunters become the Hunted!!!!

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  25. Spade says:

    Hmm… well, Catalina Caper has an animated intro leading into the live-action movie itself, so let’s complete the trifecta and add the characters from the Gumby short into the mix! No explanations, no interactions with any of the main characters – just Gumby and friends appearing randomly during each of the dancing scenes, doing nothing but adding some claymation dancing.

    Alternatively, since their Gumby short shows how adept they are at (eventually) defeating evil robots, they could duke it out with the android duplicates in The Human Duplicators! Just imagine Gumby and Richard Kiel, trading razor-sharp dialogue and suave acting skills with one another…

    And even though the Neptune Men probably aren’t robots, you can bet Gumby and his family would do a *much* better job of fighting them off than Space Chief did in Invasion of the Neptune Men…

    And hey, how about having the Gumby characters suddenly grow extremely tall for no adequately-explained reason, so they can duke it out with Godzilla, Jet Jaguar, Megalon and Gigan! Being the robot-haters they are, they’d likely go after Jet Jaguar the most, but nevertheless this would add even more confusion (along with some Harryhausen-like claymation charm) to the ending fight scenes in Godzilla vs. Megalon.

    Finally, the one movie where you almost wouldn’t even notice the sudden addition of Gumby and friends: The Wild Wild World of Batwoman! Seriously, drop them in almost anywhere (particularly toward the end of the movie), and it would still make about as much sense as before.

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  26. servomademesayit says:

    Torgo: Coily…you gave up…too soon. The Master…is not pleased. The Master…does not approve.

    Coily: Bite me, Thigh Boy! (“catchphrase” whistle sound)

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  27. littleaimishboy says:

    The Screaming Skull: Jenni, already doubting her own sanity, hears strange noises down the corridor. Creeping between the atmospheric shadows, she comes upon a dusty curtain. Behind the curtain … a door. And flinging the door wide open, she sees – Mr B Natural! AAAGH!!!

    “Knew your husband’s first wife, I did!”

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  28. Spade says:

    @robniles (#13) – I think you’re on to something there, it’s hard to think of a movie that you *couldn’t* fit Mr. B into somehow:

    * Catalina Caper (almost writes itself: “the spirit of fun in music!”)
    * Bloodlust (some kind of satisfying death scene)
    * Killer Shrews (ditto, but only after getting drunk with the other characters first and laughing uproariously at them)
    * Godzilla vs. Megalon (could split time between working with Jet Jaguar on fight/dance choreography, and teaching young “Roxanne” about the spirit of fun in music)
    * Riding With Death (“Knew Robert Denby, I did!”)
    * Space Mutiny (as leader of the Mr. B-ellarians)
    * Wild Wild World of Batwoman (just about anywhere, really, though one hilarious mashup would be to dub in random Mr. B quotes as the responses they get in the seance scene)
    * Puma Man (in place of Vadinho, opening young Tony Farms’ mind to recognize his powers… along with the spirit of fun in music, too!)
    * Master Ninja I & II (as the hamster – though only Van Patten’s character could hear Mr. B’s voice, and when nobody was looking it would transform into Mr. B and deliver some punchlines to the camera)
    * Santa Claus (in place of Pitch, naturally)
    * Danger!! Death Ray (you know that overused “bop-ba-dop-ba-da-da” theme music? clearly Mr. B’s doing!)

    And finally, as per robniles’ mention…

    * Red Zone Cuba (as the voices in the heads of the main characters, compelling them to make their stupid or inexplicable decisions – “you can believe Cherokee Jack, he enjoys the spirit of fun in music!”)

    This could actually be its own Weekend Discussion Thread – “Describe how you’d fit Mr. B Natural into any MST3K movie.”

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  29. littleaimishboy says:

    (PS – Mr B Natural is good in anything.)

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  30. David Mello says:

    How about the Teenage Caveman meeting Eegah, trying to convince him to his New Law, until Eegah eyes the TC’s girl friend.
    Or Rocky Jones having to deal with Krankor who’s in an alliance with Cleolanta. The baddies are defeated by the Prince of Space because weapons have no effect on him.

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  31. robot rump! says:

    ‘Mitchell!’ is hired to find ‘Johnny’ at the fair. It’s a harrowing chase until he finds the ‘Chemical Wonderland.’ hopped up on a number of chemicals, he gets in a fight with Olson and Johnson for making a bunch of fat jokes and finally getting plunked in the head by a fast ball when he wandered out onto the baseball field. ‘johnny’s’ parents finally find their son hanging out at the corn dog stand.

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  32. If Batwoman and her entourage of hotties were in THE MOLE PEOPLE, the rope climbing sequence would be 1,000,000% more entertaining.

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  33. TheAngryBanjo says:

    Mibbitmaker: In “Tormented”, of course. I wasn’t allowed to edit my comment for some reason (likely my f’ed up computer these days)

    It’s not just your computer. I’ve been trying to find out how to edit my comment since coming to the realization that I hadn’t read the subject correctly. :sweat:

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  34. WeatherServo9 says:

    Wow, Mr. B gets around, if you know what I mean.

    For a bit of a dark twist, I’d like to see the home economics girls from Iowa State team up with Critter and the gang to head to L.A. and find their fortunes in gold-boot dancing (and minor drug peddling).

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  35. littleaimishboy says:

    Bart Fargo: So – YOU are the brains behind this evil scheme!

    Selling Wizard/Pizza Dominatrix: [Nods enthusiastically.]

    BF: Well … I’m afraid you’ll find Bart Fargo doesn’t give up so easily!

    SWPD: [Frowns.]

    BF: And now if you don’t mind, I’ll just return the Death Ray to the peaceful purposes for which it was originally int….

    [SWPD frowns and points to a nearby window; BF, suddenly under her malign mind control, obligingly leaps out to his doom. SWPD smiles.]

    FIN

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  36. Black Doug says:

    The kid from “Why Study Industrial Arts” would be a much better groundskeeper than Mickey in “The Screaming Skull”; he’s just as creepy while being theoretically smarter, plus the director would have time to make a better movie without having to play a role within it.

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  37. The two squareheads from ‘Century 21 Calling’ wind up at Old Man Crenshaw’s place and he feeds them to to Boggy Creek creature.

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  38. robot rump! says:

    I wonder just how ‘squishy’ Judy from ‘Young Man’s Fancy’would get if Ortega replaced Alexander Phipps. would make the shower scene a bit more surreal.
    also, Torgo replaces the strange masked guy in ‘Design for Dreaming.’ “The MaSter NEVer tauGHT ME hOW to DRIve..” insert generic crash foley here.

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  39. underwoc says:

    #35 beat me to the Selling Wizard, though I’d put her up against any given scene chewing villain from the Conan-wannabe films – Troxartus, Jack Palance, the evil John Saxon type guy, etc….

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  40. Leave Crow T. Robert Denby Alone says:

    For me, the easiest ones are the ones where the short and the movie sort of blur together. For example, after a double-dose of Commando Cody, I keep expecting Retik to show up in Project Moonbase. Come to think of it, I wonder how Judy fared during the Violent Years of her life. Just think what she would have done to poor Alexander Phipps if she was in that gang!

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  41. Geoff says:

    The Creeper and Rowsdower are friends with the men in A Case Of Spring Fever.

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  42. Professor Gunther says:

    #35: You nailed it–that was absolutely hilarious! :-)

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  43. Spade says:

    I concur with Professor Gunther – that was brilliant, littleamishboy (#35)! XD

    You’ve inspired me to think of other ways the mute Selling Wizard/Pizza Dominatrix could fit in:

    * Gamera vs. Zigra (in place of Lora Lee, the evil henchwoman for Zigra at the beginning of the movie – though, that means Zigra would have to dispense more of the exposition himself, speak thru her telepathically, etc.)
    * Fire Maidens of Outer Space (the dopey astronauts may not have fared so well had *she* been in charge…)
    * The Dead Talk Back (she could be another wacky resident of the house – the cops would have a tough time interrogating her, yet somehow they’d end up proud new owners of large freezers)
    * The Creeping Terror (probably one of the people at the dance – and they wouldn’t have needed to add any poorly-dubbed dialog for her!)
    * Kitten With A Whip (…for obvious reasons, though it’d be quite a different movie!)
    * Racket Girls (“And now in the ring, the be-autifullll, the dan-gerous, the dead-lyyyyy… Pizza Dominatrix!”)
    * Space Mutiny (as leader of the Bellarians, who would naturally replace those lightning ball things with large freezers)
    * The She Creature (as the creature – which, would be even *more* chilling, actually…)
    * The Screaming Skull (as the dead wife – again, somehow far more chilling!)

    (…and no, “chilling” was not an intentional pun there. At least, not originally.)

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  44. Luther Strickland says:

    Jimmy Wilson making a guest appearance at the city council meeting to answer the question, “What About Juvenile Delinquency?” by extolling the virtues of essay contests.

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  45. underwoc says:

    Ok, a kind of dumb one, but can you picture the scene in The Truck Farmer with all of the migrant vegetable puckers. One of them looks up to the camera with a fistful of carrots and exclaims, “potatoes are what we eat!”

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  46. underwoc says:

    And I suppose Tom Stewart and Cheating John could join a support group for guys affected by floating disembodied heads.

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  47. Edwin B says:

    The fey Devil from Out of This World jumps into Santa Claus to team up with Pitch. Those two demons would have so much fun mincing and dancing around together as they try to thwart Santa Claus. Of course the Bread Salesman (is he Jesus?) would join Merlin in the clouds to help out Santa Claus, maybe he could throw some cinnamon buns at ‘Ol Pitch when he is trying to burn Santa with a hot door knob. And the chilly angel could get Lupita’s Dad a job as a bread salesman. As long as he moves the bikes out of the way of the store doors he should be able to handle it.

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  48. Kenneth Morgan says:

    Have Valeria from “Robot Holocaust” show up on the set of “Werewolf”. Hey, she pretty much has the same Euroweird accent as Natalie, Paul and Yuri; she’d fit right in. (“Yew and yaw warwilf aw dewmed!”)

    And maybe have Torgo show up as Bela’s assistant in “Bride of the Monster”. Pretty much the same effect, but the movie lasts an hour longer.

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  49. underwoc says:

    Errr… Regarding #45… Should’ve read “vegetable pickers”. Not sure what a vegetable pucker is – perhaps a club team from rural Manitoba…

    At any rate, my apologies.

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  50. Don Emery says:

    I’d love to have a scene in “Radar Men from the Moon” where Pumaman is getting flying lessons from Commander Cody
    “No Pumaman! It’s all in the nipples!”

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