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Episode guide: 1109- Yongary Monster From the Deep

Movie: (1967) Earthquakes in Korea turn out to be the work of Yongary, a prehistoric fire-breathing reptile who’s headed for Seoul.

Opening: J&tB are having their weekly dream journal meeting
Invention exchange: J&tB demonstrate their tiny desks; The Mads have Hitler Coffee
Segment 1: J&tB discuss astronauts and the music they like
Segment 2: Tom explains his monster-themed club, Yongary Nights
Segment 3: J&tB discuss what monster they’d like to be friends with
Closing: J&tB and The Mads sing “Push Past the Hurting”
Stinger: Monster a-go-go
1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (52 votes, average: 4.08 out of 5)

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• Capsule!
• A pretty good episode, with lots of great riffing and some mostly decent host segments. This sort of thing is right up their alley.
• The “music the astronauts like” sketch just sort of peters out. Thank goodness for movie sign.
• Another little bit of nomenclature from Max: The thing projecting onto the surface of the moon is called the “Iron Butterfly.”
• J&tB are very musical in the theater this time. Lots of singing.
• Callbacks: “I’m huge!” and “Thunderbirds are go!”
• The song they sing at the end is another great ditty by Paul & Storm.
• There was a bit more chuckling among the riffers in the theater this time. Maybe they just thought it was funnier.
• Cute moment the theater when something that looks eerily like the movie sign light goes off, and triggers Jonah and the bots.
• Movie question: What happened to the U.N. experts that were supposedly coming? Did they ever arrive?
• Cast and crew roundup: Just one this time: Macao Yagi, who built Godzilla and Gamera’s suits, supervised the construction of the Yongary suit.
• Fave riff: “I’M UPSIDE DOWWWWWWWN!” Honorable mention: “Everyone grab one thing. Doesn’t matter what the thing is! Just take it!” “Welcome back to Speaking Spectacles. I’m your host, Glasses McFancyHair.”

147 Replies to “Episode guide: 1109- Yongary Monster From the Deep”

  1. Denver Brown says:

    My main gripe with the new shows are the pacing like others have addressed, but I believe what I loved about the original run was that the comedic timing was mostly always spot on. Cramming in too many jokes, most of which we can do without, in my opinion all the Game of thrones, nerdy type gaming references destroy the timing of the good jokes. I also miss the vitriol and sardonic approach to the movies, remember the movies and Mads are the enemies. The charm of the original run was that the cast was mostly made up of the writing staff, which I think is better than getting already established celebrities to appear as main on-screen characters. These are just my main grievances with the show, although I’ve mildly enjoyed the new episodes, any MST3k is better than none at all.

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  2. Cornjob says:

    The last time the rancor got so bad that Sampo had to come downstairs and tell the kids to knock it off he explicitly said to avoid personal attacks and negative venting directed at other posters regardless of who started it; as well as “back and forthing”. Although I haven’t bothered to count I think over half the posts in this thread are guilty of some or all of the above. Mr. Sampo is a very nice man that maintains this free site for no pay. Forcing him to be a school bus driver with a bus full of screaming fighting children is rude, ungrateful, and a good way to make him feel like there’s no good reason to bother.

    I was really looking forward to the discussion of this episode, but it’s been a bit of a downer. I know to “just not read posts I don’t like”. And I do. But the thing is, I don’t know if a post is one I don’t want to read or not until I’ve read some of it. And my option to not read the rest of a post doesn’t erase the bad taste or icky residue left from reading the beginning. I can try avoiding certain posters, but that requires being familiar enough with their nastiness that I know to avoid them. Plus I have to avoid other posters “quoting” and criticizing others vitriolic statements. And veering away from posts that are only partially toxic. And you know, this site isn’t supposed to be a place one has to step through gingerly like a public park that’s full of dog crap and used condoms. C’mon people. This is not MST3K Fight Club. We’re supposed to be better than this. But right now we aren’t.

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  3. trennerdios says:

    Johnny Drama: The same goes for the other way around. Usually, when I mention I really don’t like Space Mutiny, I’m instantly labeled a troll. It is possible not to like that one.

    I don’t care if you or anyone else hates Space Mutiny. Or Pod People. Or Wizards of the Lost Kingdom. Or whatever. It’s just more often than not, it’s presented as “Why would anyone like this episode?” I’ve rarely seen it made without the implication that others are dumb or sheep for liking “insert popular episode”. Some people get so riled about others enjoying a thing they don’t, and they take it as a personal attack on themselves. I’m not innocent of that; I remember many years ago I would get irritated that so many people loved The Office, and I didn’t get it at all. It’s still not for me, but I had to realize that it was a silly waste of time getting so annoyed that many people liked this thing that I didn’t care for, and that it was okay for me to not like it and them to love it.

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  4. Ro-man, aka one of several possible Steves says:

    Cornjob
    …. C’mon people. This is not MST3K Fight Club. We’re supposed to be better than this. But right now we aren’t.

    Amen… well said, brother Cornjob. That’ll preach!
    I hope somebody besides the choir is listening, though.

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  5. “Luckily it was a Radio Shack, so no one was in there.”

    Practically all radio Shacks across the country are closed now. Ouch.

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  6. docskippy says:

    Brandon Pierce:
    “Luckily it was a Radio Shack, so no one was in there.”

    Practically all radio Shacks across the country are closed now. Ouch.

    Well, to be fair, no one is in those closed Radio Shack stores, so the joke stands.

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  7. Lisa H. says:

    docskippy: Well, to be fair, no one is in those closed Radio Shack stores

    As far as YOU know, maybe. Sounds like the start of a great creepypasta.

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  8. As much as I love this episode, I’m VERY disappointed that Jonah and the Bots didn’t at any time sing “Yongary! Yongarah! Yongaree! Yongarahahaha!” Like that stupid “Merry Wanderer” song.

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  9. Lisa H. says:

    Yeah, now that you mention it…

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  10. For the simple fact that he endangered the lives of people, the kid in this movie is officially the worst kid in a MST’d movie.

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  11. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Is it just me or does this thread contain WAY more complaining, and complaining about other people’s complaints, then it contains comments on the episode itself? I’m fully prepared to be told it’s just me.

    I’ll split the difference with a “complaint” about the episode:

    They couldn’t have at least had Yongary colored something other than Godzilla-green? They couldn’t even make THAT small a leap in the name of making him more distinctive? Even in the real world, there are reptiles who are different colors than green…

    And I’m over it. :-)

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  12. Colossus Prime says:

    Yay, my name is in the credits of this one! I know it’s just one of hundreds, but it’s still fun to see.

    There is no MST3K episode I have watched harder than this one. Trying desperately to make sense of just what the heck is going on, and come away with nothing. Sure Castle of Fu Man Chu makes less sense, as do the multiple movies made from TV episodes, but Yongary is so linear and has so few characters it should not be this difficult. Was someone in the middle east actually testing nuclear weapons? Did that actually have anything to do with Yongary rising? If so, how? If not, why did he rise up and head to Korea? Why did the kid want to wake up Yongary? Why did they start dancing? Why the incredibly disturbing death? And so many more!

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  13. Dan in WI says:

    So Jonah dreams about reenacting the show opening?!?!?
    Kinga opens with a good one directed at Max: Remember when I told you to share with me your inner most thoughts and dreams? She didn’t. Exactly.
    The invention exchange was solid if not spectacular. Tom sums up the tiny desk perfectly: The cathartic desk flip takes seconds but the cleanup goes on forever. This was a cute invention. Hitler coffee was okay but Max had a line which sure made me double take. “Coffee: Everyone drinks it, even people who don’t.” Now I don’t drink coffee and even though I don’t drink it I still don’t drink it. I have to ponder this some more.
    Icho would be so dead. Call me old fashioned but having an experiment ray pointed at me is not my idea of good comedy. I just don’t find that kind of mischief endearing.
    Lots of laser cut props in this episode. The musical tastes host segment was cute. I think we were all surprised to learn that Sally Ride was an eclectic metal head. But Yongary Nights took some randomly goofy movie scenes and overly belabored them.
    Favorite Riffs:
    Jonah: So twin robots and shooting family members with an experiment weapon are equally entertaining to this kid. Good to know.
    The walkie talkie calls during the honeymoon scene. Crow “Billy, it’s Timmy. Did you get to first base yet? Over.
    The national initials ROK are seen in on the rocket. Crow “Hey look at that. They ran out of space to write rocket.”
    They drive the astronaut back. Jonah “Thank goodness they’re showing this or else we’d have to assume they all teleported to wherever they are going.”
    Some sort of alarm goes off. Jonah “We got movie sign!” Then Jonah and the bots show their chagrin at being faked out.
    Earthquake leading up to Yongary. Crow “You wanted the best, you got the best. Ladies and gentlemen KISS. KISS”
    Yongary smashes a building. Jonah sings “I love you, You love me.”
    Tom “You can tell his sister is going to be a real Bridezilla.” Crow “You mean Bride-Gary.”

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  14. Dan in WI says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    Is it just me or does this thread contain WAY more complaining, and complaining about other people’s complaints, then it contains comments on the episode itself? I’m fully prepared to be told it’s just me.

    I’m right there with you. I too thought this was supposed to be an EPISODE discussion and not a “why season 12 is [better/worse] than days of past” discussion.

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  15. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    North Korea also produced the infamous Pulgasari in 1985, but that’s another story…

    Literally.

    If they ever riff Pulgasari, they REALLY need to lure Frank in to guest-star. Probably no other Brain could play the role of Kim Jong-un as visitor/viewscreen guest nearly as well…

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -Isn’t this our second Ichio? Gamera vs Gyaos came out the same year that this film did.Hmmmm…

    Ahh, over there, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is named Ichio…
    ;-)

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -Gypsy comes in during the second movie segment.

    What exactly is Gypsy DOING when she puts that box down and later picks it back up, anyway? Do we ever find out?

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -Yongary TOTALLY stole that car
    slicing

    A hyphen can really make a difference, can’t it? ;-)

    gf120581:
    I know of no other giant monster that eats gasoline and enjoys doing dance moves with little kids (even Gamera drew the line at that).

    There was that one time where he played music on a fallen enemy’s body like it was a xylophone, though.

    gf120581:
    – Political jokes are always a risk, not just because of controversy, but because they have a high probability of being dated (if you watch an old episode and are confused at a John Sununu joke, I fully understand).

    Harold Stassen and Tom Dewey weren’t exactly contemporary politicians but the earlier incarnations mentioned them nevertheless. “The right people will get it.” ;-)
    ;-)

    gf120581:
    – That ending…what the hell?How does a goofy kaiju movie that has a monster doing the Macarena with a little kid end with him in an eternal death scene that climaxes with anal bleeding?

    Well, it was memorable, anyway, it set the movie apart from what it was imitating, give it that much. Kind of like how Gamera vs. Jiger is the only kaiju film (that I know of) to include both a rape AND an abortion.

    gf120581:
    “What if aliens approach Earth from this angle? How are they supposed to know America is the best country?”

    Oddly enough, during the 1950s and 1960s, the USA was attacked by relatively few giant monsters from outer space. Most of the giant monsters came right from the USA itself. Is there a moral in there somewhere? Probably not.

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  16. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    No offense, but IMHO some of Ichio’s critics convey the impression that they’ve never encountered an actual child before. Children don’t think the same way that adults think. They just don’t, that’s all.

    Cameron Bane:
    I should have added, I’m a writer with seven novels out (click my name)

    I did. You weren’t there. Sorry about that.

    Kenneth Morgan:
    This movie definitely rates a revised ending, like Joel & the ‘bots did for “Girl in Lovers Lane”.How about this: It turns out that Yongary isn’t dead, merely injured and dormant.Before the ROK military can blast him again, the JDF (who are experienced in such matters) step in and offer to take charge. Yongary is taken to Monster Island.

    Wouldn’t Korea have its own system of post-kaiju-attack procedures? I mean, if you let Japan imprison your nation’s kaiju, then they become JAPAN’S potential WMDs, not your own.

    EricJ:
    Sorry, Bub. If YOU get to crap on Mike, Kevin, Bill and the Sci-Fi Era in EVERY SINGLE POST you’ve made here for the past 5 years or so then Mike Kelley can say whatever he wants to say about MST3k: The Return and you have no right to try and silence him. Wannabe Fascist.

    I don’t think you’re giving Original EricJ enough credit.

    Ro-man, aka one of several possible Steves:
    Oh, and in all seriousness… that “golden rule” thing is a really good idea.

    “Whoever has the gold makes the rules”?
    ;-)

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  17. Sitting Duck says:

    In my original post, I had commented on how Korean Kenny dressed like Conan Edogawa of Detective Conan (localized in the States as Case Closed). Rewatching Yongary, I spotted a point where a riff themed on that could be placed, which occurs in the scene where he’s being reprimanded for using the itch ray.

    “Where did you get that, as if I didn’t know?”
    From Dr. Agasa. (Dr. Agasa is Conan’s wacky mad scientist neighbor, who provides him with gadgets that aid him in his detective work)

    docskippy: Anyway, what does this have to do with “Watch our for snakes!”?

    You should always watch out for snakes, because they’re evil, nasty dickweeds. Ever read The Curse of Yig?

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    Is it just me or does this thread contain WAY more complaining, and complaining about other people’s complaints, then it contains comments on the episode itself? I’m fully prepared to be told it’s just me.

    I think it might be you, though I’ll grant you that JediPeaceFrog (thankfully no longer with us) did help set off a stream of bile and ill will in this topic.

    touches no one’s life, then leaves: Ahh, over there, every Tom, Dick, and Harry is named Ichio…
    ;-)

    Except for the ones named Kenny.

    Favorite riffs

    What if aliens approached the Earth from this angle? How are they suppose to know that America is the best country?

    Welcome to the Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Institute of Technology.

    They’ll be able to reproduce, but their kids will be itchy.

    The DMZ is surprisingly mellow.

    “You can sleep afterwards.”
    After what, Jonah?
    Don’t worry about it.

    Did we remember to evacuate the hermit living under the launchpad?

    Detaching space nipple. And space nipple detached.

    There, wasn’t this better than an actual honeymoon?

    What is that machine, and how can I use it to hurt people?

    Korean Marmaduke sucks.

    “He might even land in the ocean.”
    Or he might get stuck in a cloud.

    It’s getting dark up here in space. I want to come back.

    Parallel parking, that’s the hardest part of the space test.

    Bob, does our space capsule really look that fake?

    How did Dad do it? At this rate, I’ll never die from overwork.

    Damn kids with their Mentos and Diet Coke!

    If this wasn’t such a crummy matte shot, I’d be worried for that guy.

    Meanwhile, FAO Schwartz takes advantage of the confusion to launch a blitzkrieg strike on Toys ‘R’ Us.

    “If I can help…”
    Big if.

    For a Korean movie, there sure are a lot of Dutch angles.

    Whereas Godzilla was a parable about nuclear war, Yongary is a parable about copyright infringement.

    “Why should a monster drink oil?”
    It’s so high in saturated fat.

    Let this be the scene where Yongary finally kills Ichio.

    Now even God’s trying to end this movie.

    Come on, movie. Give me some Korean snow clowns.

    Just shoot him in the back of the head already.

    Korea’s Going Out of Business Sale! All itch rays half off!

    Yongary’s in Heaven now, dancing with God.

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  18. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    So there’s a Danish kaiju and a Korean kaiju, but where are the representatives from so many other countries?

    Even Italy doesn’t seem to have any and (at least in earlier decades) the Italian film industry would imitate almost anything. And no, Devil Fish doesn’t count. IMHO.

    Here are a few other mostly non-Japanese examples:

    https://teleport-city.com/tag/kaiju-giant-monsters/

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    Also, I wonder if Todd is related to Chip?

    Which reminds me of the John Larroquette Show episode “There’s a Mister Hitler Here to See You.”

    Yeti of Great Danger:
    apparently the science-military complex of the ROK thinks it’s perfectly acceptable for a helicopter pilot to load his craft with his entire cheering/giggling civilian family and hover over a rampaging monster while dumping loads of toxic chemicals both on the monster

    Rank has its privileges.

    WeatherServo9:
    The thing that really stood out to me about this particular monster movie (other than the downer ending) was the special idiocy of the MEN IN CHARGE, sitting in their little room somewhere. I know that every monster movie has one of these rooms (a lab, a bunker, etc.) and, in terms of making a movie, it’s easier to have one standing set rather than show a bunch of people out and about doing things. And to be fair, this movie does show the same small number of people out and about doing things

    It’d probably take a SCIENTIST to explain it…

    Mike “ex-genius” Kelley:
    (Oh, and “Capsule” was the only part of this that actually made my DW and I laugh out loud. It’s a very poor MST3K when we have one laugh-out-loud moment in 90 minutes).

    I rarely laugh out loud at MST3K episodes, no matter how funny they are. In fact, I rarely laugh out loud under any circumstances. I find things funny, I just rarely actually laugh. I’m a regular Bud Abbott, I am. ;-)

    Incidentally, I didn’t find “CAPSULE!” at all funny. So what? So what?

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  19. touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    In fact, I rarely laugh out loud under any circumstances. I find things funny, I just rarely actually laugh. I’m a regular Bud Abbott, I am. ;-)

    Good, got two tens for a five?
    Oh, and why don’t you wait here, and I’LL go run for the police?

    touches no one’s life, then leaves: If they ever riff Pulgasari, they REALLY need to lure Frank in to guest-star. Probably no other Brain could play the role of Kim Jong-un as visitor/viewscreen guest nearly as well…

    0_0
    Quoted for accidental genius.

    I can even hear Conniff’s comic overacting as pudgy Lil’ Kim Jr.:
    “Yeah, in fact, we just built a new McDonald’s in Pyongyang, it’s really great, ’cause they’ve got these spicy Korean-BBQ burgers, y’know, and they put the little missiles in the Happy Meal toys, so that the kids can….Waitaminute–What am I saying?: FEAR US!! We will bury you! Fear the Kim-cheeee!” ;)

    Danzilla "Cornjob" McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology: They did!And it’s pretty amazing:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M1DL1OO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497715360&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=the+lovers+and+the+despot&dpPl=1&dpID=51hHq5E%2B6SL&ref=plSrch
    It’s a documentary, and it features some fascinating interviews and some reinactments!

    The original Pulgasari was streaming on the bottom-feeding Public-Domania of Amazon Prime for a while during the interim, but, like most of their generic-can labeled PD B-movies, you had to catch it quick before somebody noticed it was up there and took it down–
    Certainly a movie made with the “Drive out the enemy invader” impetus of all crazy paranoia-distracted dictator-produced movies, but think “Low-budget period HK battle-epic” with everyone in robes, lances and hairbuns, rather than “Japanese kaiju imitator”. (Unless someone had been watching too many of the Giant Majin movies.)

    Oh, and Pulgy is a good character, the friend of all young downtrodden ancient-Korean farming-village peasants, who starts out as a little Trumpy-like comedy-relief critter, until he learns to get more iron his diet…Literally.

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  20. thequietman says:

    In conclusion, we’re toast.

    Wow, reading this thread for the first time seems to illustrate the most extreme case of Sampo’s Theorem I’ve ever seen. Can’t imagine why, since this episode was a pleasant little number, reminiscent of the Gamera run from season three, with riffing segments that are slowly getting more laid back and an attempt to make a “Clown in the Sky” for a new generation of fans. I’m really just relaxing.

    Fave Riffs
    This must be Shining Time Station’s industrial complex!

    Astronaut: Am I supposed to be upside down?
    Astronaut’s father: Is he supposed to be upside down?
    Astronaut’s wife: Good thing he’s right side up!

    Look at the detail work on that rocket, you can almost smell the paint!

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  21. Lisa H. says:

    Dan in WI: Lots of laser cut props in this episode.

    Does anyone else find them a little … samey? I thought they were cute and clever for “Every Country Has a Monster”, but they keep reusing the exact same process and color scheme over and over. I’d prefer something a little less slick and infinitely reproducible, and a little more handmade.

    Technical note: has anyone else been finding that links to specific comments that are in the RSS feed and also when being forwarded back to the thread after making a post point to the wrong page of comments?

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  22. Johnny Drama says:

    thequietman: this episode was a pleasant little number

    Um, maybe to a point, but then there’s the whole bleeding out ending. Really makes the whole movie rather unpleasant for me, anyway. I’d rank this one somewhere in the middle of Season 11.

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  23. Johnny Drama says:

    An earlier commentator stated that the movies are the enemy. I beg to differ. They are companions, not enemies. I would never hate watch MST3K.

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  24. Johnny Drama:
    An earlier commentator stated that the movies are the enemy. I beg to differ. They are companions, not enemies. I would never hate watch MST3K.

    A newer generation–for some reason–feels that the movies are AGAINST them personally, as if robbing them of their time deliberately, and need to be put back into their place before they (meaning, sad, delusional washed-up people in Hollywood) ever consider the unforgivable arrogance of trying that stunt again.
    It could be just because we’re watching comics who’ve already sat through the movie several times that week, and we’re just now catching them at that camel’s-straw moment of “All right, that’s freakin’ it!!” where the red mist sets in and everything snaps, but that’s their problem for being too self-indulgently close to the material for their audience.

    People like that don’t really enjoy being audiences or sitting in theaters for longer than…well, at all, and you often have to wonder about their career choices.

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  25. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    Well, it was memorable, anyway, it set the movie apart from what it was imitating, give it that much. Kind of like how Gamera vs. Jiger is the only kaiju film (that I know of) to include both a rape AND an abortion.

    I’m not sure what sort of reaction I expected to get from that but NONE wasn’t it.
    ;-)

    I’ll forego elaborating (inasmuch as no one’s asked me to do so) and just post a relevant link.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera_vs._Jiger

    Remember, it too was made as a kids’ movie.

    “Scientists labor to find out what the HELL is the deal with Japan…AND with Korea…”

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  26. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny Drama:
    I’d rank this one somewhere in the middle of Season 11.

    Good call, because it literally IS somewhere in the middle of Season 11: Episode #9 of 14. ;-)

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  27. Kenneth Morgan says:

    Hey, I didn’t mean that the JDF would just swoop in and take charge. They’d contact the ROK government, offer their help, and see to it that Yongary is moved to a secure location. All nice and cooperative. That’s the way to world peace: all of the world’s governments working together in harmony to keep giant monsters in check. And, by being nice to Yongary, we get some potential help next time Ghidora or his ilk show up.

    Besides, you know that, if Yongary isn’t whisked away to Monster Island, that twerp Icho will get bored, steal another gadget, and use it to revive Yongary and make him even more destructive.

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  28. Cornjob says:

    Say what you will, Yongary was clearly a bad ass.

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  29. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Wondering, has anyone thought to ask Joel Hodgson if R.D. is in fact Joel Robinson in “disguise”? I can’t be the only one who’s thought of that. ;-)

    Dan in WI:
    Icho would be so dead. Call me old fashioned but having an experiment ray pointed at me is not my idea of good comedy.

    Well, obviously, that’s because you’re not the one AIMING the experiment ray. ;-)

    Icho is clearly a budding mad scientist. I’m sure this wasn’t the first time he’s made a techno-pest of himself. Maybe that’s why the government(s) lets him (and other shorts-wearing kaiju-loving children) hang around top-secret security installations, they want to placate these loose cannon monster-talkers so as to stay on their good side.

    “That…that’s a GOOD thing you did, Icho. Yes, it, it’s VERY good that you did that…”

    Kind of a shame that Icho’s mad science shenanigans didn’t prompt Kinga to reminisce about her own mad-science-y childhood.

    I mean, okay, yes, we know nothing about Kinga’s childhood, but even if she wasn’t raised by and/or around mad scientists, she probably would’ve been drawn to mad science as a child anyway, since it’s evidently in the genes and stuff. ;-) It at least begs the question of whether or not Evillos (the mad science Webelos) admits girls as well as boys.

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  30. A weird coincidence: last night when I watched this episode and took notes, Yongary: Monster from the Deep was playing at the same time on CometTV.

    After a couple not-so-good episodes, Season 11 comes roaring back to life with the screams of YONGARY!! This is an enjoyable and weird kaiju flick and Jonah and The Bots do a great job riffing it to shreds. These giant monster movies are MST bread-n-butter, Yongary has it all, an annoying little kid, a stilted love story, outer space stuff, goofy special effects, explosions, destruction, and weird stuff (that death scene, man. WTF?) The episode itself is also solid, the Invention Exchange is one of the best of the season, the Tiny Desk is great and Todd Hitler’s Hitler Coffee is hilarious.

    Host Segment #1 is pretty good (shout out to Sally Ride!) and I love Crow’s “Awesome! I mean, do you like it?”
    HS#2 with Yongary Nights is another showcase for that machine they use to make all those 3D cutouts.
    HS#3: “Crow, I don’t want you hanging out with Clawful anymore.”

    Also, “Push Through the Hurting” is pretty good song, my second fave of the season behind the Reptilicus Rap.

    RIFFS:

    Jonah: “Jazz hands!”

    Crow: “The DMZ is surprisingly mellow.”

    Crow: “I’m huge!”

    Crow: “Detaching Space Nipple.”

    Crow: “Korean Marmaduke sucks.”

    Jonah: “The UN?! We better hide our booze!”

    Jonah: “Toonces, no!”

    movie: “Yongary’s coming out!”
    Crow: “Hey, good for Yongary.”

    Jonah: “Bye-bye, student loans!”

    Servo: “Seoul is my kinda town!”

    Crow: “Oh! I know a pagoda that’s gonna get tickled.”

    Servo: “Smokes weed once. Destroys city. Don’t be a Yongary.”

    Crow: “It’s a trap for the world’s biggest hobo.”

    Crow: “SMOOTH!”

    Crow: “Yongary, a Max Fischer production.”

    Jonah: “Oh! Is he trying to seduce us?”
    Servo: “Hey, like what you see? You know I haven’t got a stitch on..”

    Crow: “Ok, movie, you’ve got our attention.”

    Jonah: “Porkins, no!!”

    Crow: (panting) “I could do this all day.”

    Servo: “Wait, did they sprinkle ecstasy on him?”

    Crow: “Yes he’s a public figure, but no one deserves to see this, c’mon.”

    —–

    Another great episode,
    I give Yongary: Monster from the Deep 4 out of 5 CAPSULES!

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  31. Sitting Duck says:

    Kenneth Morgan:
    Hey, I didn’t mean that the JDF would just swoop in and take charge. They’d contact the ROK government, offer their help, and see to it that Yongary is moved to a secure location. All nice and cooperative.

    Aside from the hard feelings over the military occupation I mentioned previously, there is the fact that the SDF (as its name suggests) is an entirely defensive force which is specifically prohibited from being deployed outside Japan.

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:
    It at least begs the question of whether or not Evillos (the mad science Webelos) admits girls as well as boys.

    Well the Boy Scouts have begun to offer full membership opportunities for girls (Venture Crews had already allowed for female members for some time). No such equal opportunity as regards the Girl Scouts which I’m aware of. Makes you wonder if Girl Scouts really sucks that much.

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  32. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    It’s nice that the movie didn’t waste time having anyone be skeptical of Yongary’s existence, which can happen EVEN in giant monster movies sometimes if all the government has at first is second-hand reports. The characters just sort of roll with it, like it’s not unheard of, as if they in fact exist in the same universe as Godzilla, Gamera, and so on. Very different from [most] slasher films, where each group of protagonists has to slowly catch on to the same things over and over and over again. A killer taking vengeance for a wrong done to him years earlier? An urban legend in the flesh? An inbred cannibal family on the hunt? Gee, never heard of anything like that before…

    Watch-out-for-Snakes:
    Crow: “Yes he’s a public figure, but no one deserves to see this, c’mon.”

    Should that have instead been “no one deserves to be seen like this”?

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -The idea of Yongary actually having a jet growing in his throat is kind of an in-joke amongst kaiju fans.

    I’m not sure I see how it’s much weirder than some of the stuff from Gamera movies. ;-)

    Yeti of Great Danger:
    perfectly acceptable for a helicopter pilot to load his craft with his entire cheering/giggling civilian family and hover over a rampaging monster while dumping loads of toxic chemicals both on the monster and in the waterway

    Upon reflection, it’s kind of like the trope of the “traditional” family unit of adventurers, as seen in the animated Godzilla series, where Capt. Carl Majors, Dr. Quinn Darien (who carries on the SF tradition of a female scientist with a “male” first name), Dr. Darien’s assistant Brock, and her nephew Pete. And Godzooky, of course. Other examples that come to mind include the Quests, the Ventures, and even, to some extent, the Fantastic Four (married couple, kid brother, family friend).

    Of course, the FF themselves also represent a separate trope, one seen in “The Wizard of Mars” and other SF “B-movies”: The Smart Guy (Reed), The Action Guy (Ben), The Young Guy/Comedy Relief (Johnny), and The Woman (Sue).

    Yet another common trope (which…really isn’t relevant here, I admit that) is the widowed scientist, his lovely daughter, and the bold Dirk Hardpec action hero who joins them to form a trio which gives the hero both a wise mentor figure and a love interest.

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  33. Kenneth Morgan says:

    Fine, change JDF to UNIT. Is that OK?

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  34. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Perhaps it’s just that no one ever clicks on the links I so thoughtfully provide. Perhaps not — it might be just that I’m a sick twisted b*stard for finding “Gamera vs. Jiger” to be of interest and everyone else is barely containing their disgust — but perhaps. ;-)

    From Wikipedia (with added bold font and italic comments):

    “In Gamera vs. Jiger…Gamera knocks Jiger around and has the upper hand until Jiger pulls Gamera to her (they make it sound almost…erotic). Jiger extends a stinger from her tail and inserts the barb into Gamera’s chest, laying an egg inside his lung.

    “…it is discovered that there is a dark spot on one of [Gamera’s] lungs. One of the scientists served as a zoo director and realises that the spot might not be a fast spreading cancer, but actually a parasitic infant Jiger growing inside Gamera. An operation is needed to remove the threat, so [some] children (Wikipedia doesn’t even bother providing their names) take the initiative by taking a walkie talkie and a mini-sub. Communication is established with the kids and they enter Gamera through his open mouth, and after almost going into his stomach, they arrive at the problem lung. The children are able to exit the sub and walk around in the lung. There, they discover the baby.

    “The baby looks like a tiny version of its mother, except that instead of shooting quills, it squirts a sticky goo. The baby attacks them, but it has a weakness…: white noise. The kids discover this is actually a fatal weakness and manage to kill the baby using static from their walkie talkie.”

    Now there’s some good old-fashioned nightmare fuel for ya.

    Wikipedia files “Gamera vs. Jiger” under the category “Abortion in fiction,” which is not necessarily something I’d have expected Wikipedia to do with a giant turtle movie…

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  35. Cornjob says:

    “I get anxious whenever I get married”

    “Don’t judge him a monster just because of his actions”

    Gotta love a dubbing job done by someone with a firm grasp of both languages.

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  36. Cornjob says:

    First rate Kaiju= Godzilla, King Kong

    Second rate Kaiju= Rodan, Mothra

    Third rate Kaiju= Gamera and associated monsters

    Forth rate Kaiju= Reptilicus

    Fifth rate Kaiju= Yongary

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  37. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    How ’bout The Beast of Hollow Mountain?

    The Giant Grasshoppers from Beginning of the End?

    The Black Scorpion?

    The Deadly Mantis?

    The Giant Gila Monster?

    Gorgo?

    The Spider (vs. Earth)?

    For that matter, how ’bout The Blob?

    The Giant Claw?

    Sharktopus…?

    ;-)

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  38. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny Drama: I am right there with you as far as why Space Mutiny is so beloved. We are very small in numbers, those baffled by the Space Mutiny love, but we are out here.

    I think Space Mutiny’s okay, neither great nor awful. The riffs could’ve been better but they could’ve been worse. It’s just another episode to me. Certainly not anything that I’d feel compelled to make A GREAT BIG FRICKIN’ DEAL ABOUT…

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  39. Johnny Drama says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves: I think Space Mutiny’s okay, neither great nor awful. The riffs could’ve been better but they could’ve been worse. It’s just another episode to me. Certainly not anything that I’d feel compelled to make A GREAT BIG FRICKIN’ DEAL ABOUT…

    Hence why I’m baffled by it’s extreme popularity. It’s average, at best. To each their own…

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  40. Johnny Drama says:

    I know this is the Yongary thread, but I rewatched Reptilicus, and I don’t get the whole “too many riffs” complaint. Occasionally they may talk a little fast, but the pacing is the same as the CC years

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  41. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny Drama: Hence why I’m baffled by it’s extreme popularity. It’s average, at best. To each their own…

    Then you should be equally baffled by the extreme virulence of its detractors. As I’m sure you’ve noticed, some people around here just can’t wrap their minds around your last four words there…

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  42. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny’s nonchalance: “totally broke my hypocrisy meter”

    Oh, I stopped trying to measure that sort of thing when OriginalEricJ asked/told Sitting Duck to stop posting the Bechdel Test results (this was IIRC in the Assignment: Venezuela thread, in case anyone’s interested). The guy spends paragraphs at a time complaining about material that he’s under no obligation to watch, much less comment on, to a forum of people whom he knows enjoy said material and playing the martyr while he’s at it, but he gripes about one or two lines devoted to the Bechdel Test. He’s the misery-who-loves-company that’s futilely searching for the company that will return his love. Poor dope. Sad, really.

    Then again, here I am wasting two paragraphs on OriginalEricJ himself, so who am I to talk? In the field of humor, it’s the guy who takes himself too seriously who’s the biggest joke of all. OSLT. ;-)

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  43. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    Capsule was the best character… COME BACK, CAPSULE!

    Denver Brown:
    My main gripe with the new shows are the pacing like others have addressed, but I believe what I loved about the original run was that the comedic timing was mostly always spot on. Cramming in too many jokes, most of which we can do without, in my opinion all the Game of thrones, nerdy type gaming references destroy the timing of the good jokes. I also miss the vitriol and sardonic approach to the movies, remember the movies and Mads are the enemies. The charm of the original run was that the cast was mostly made up of the writing staff, which I think is better than getting already established celebrities to appear as main on-screen characters. These are just my main grievances with the show, although I’ve mildly enjoyed the new episodes, any MST3k is better than none at all.

    I can agree with this. The new series is good but the timing of the jokes seems… off. They also tend to belabor/explain the jokes a little too often. The original run had some pretty obscure crap and they rarely bothered to stop and be all “Yeah, I’m talking about Game of Thrones”

    Although as a gamer myself, I love the uptick of gaming-related jokes, of which there are plenty in the next episode…
    (HADOUKEN!)

    And I do miss the movies not being all that painful to J&tB, but even the Sci-Fi era kinda dropped that angle.

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  44. yelling_into_the_void says:

    The riffs were good, but I didn’t really care for the movie.

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  45. nomad says:

    I love how the toothbrush mustache in the invention exchange is referred to as a “Hitler” mustache, but during the movie they call it a “Charlie Chaplin” mustache!

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  46. Roman says:

    This was a fun episode. I liked it a bit more on my second viewing. Not too hard, because I fell asleep after a long day the first time. :) Of the giant monster movies tackled this season, I think “Reptilicus” was a bit better episode all the way around. But “Yongary” had some really good moments. See my full review here: https://romansreviews.blogspot.com/2018/07/yongary-monster-from-deep-1967-mst3k.html

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