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Episode Guide: 1112- Carnival Magic

Movie: (1981) A clairvoyant magician and his talking chimp become a carnival sensation.

Opening: Tom is giving a TOM Talk
Invention exchange: Kinga announces her wedding; J&tB have Yeasta Pets; The Mads have Flavor Sweat
Segment 1: Carnival barker Tom presents “Markov & Alexander.”
Segment 2: Highway patrol Tom & Crow exchange cop-code radio calls
Segment 3: PT Mindslap and the Great Space Circus Show visit, but Kinga and Max chase him off
Closing: Kinga and Max narrate the disturbing carnival parade
Stinger: Sad cop sitting on his car gets towed away.
1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (63 votes, average: 4.05 out of 5)

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• The first time I saw this, having heard horrible things about it for years, I felt it really lived up to its billing. I wrote: “Just … whew!”
I noted that it reminds me very much of “Carnival of Souls” and I still think so. Both have that “locals hired to act for the first time in their lives” air to them. But I didn’t LOATHE it like some people do, and no way is it the worst movie MST3K ever did. It actually has a stinky charm, like bad meat or good cheese, as the saying goes.
• Clearly the big news for this episode is the appearance of Mark Hamill — he even sings! If you’d told me in 1998 that I would be typing that, I’d have said you were crazy.
• The credits say “The Great Space Circus Show” lyrics were written by Joel, Elliott Kalan and Robert Lopez, and it was arranged and performed by Stephen Oremus.
• “Who’s the guy on the bridge for a moment in segment 3?” many people, including me, asked. The character is actually in the credits as as Matt Claude Van Damme. He’s played by associate producer and writer Matt McGinnis. In the comments, somebody said McGinnis said on Twitter “it’ll be revealed but it’s hush hush, like Gypsy’s payload.” FYI, he’s also a Skeleton Crew cameraman in a later episode.
• One of my problems with the re-launch, especially early on, was the chemistry between Kinga and Max, which I felt was a little awkward. But I have to say they have a nice chemistry in the opening.
• Following last week’s appearance by murdered actress Lana Clarkson, let’s also note that the director of this week’s movie, Al Adamson, was murdered in 1995.
• Cast and crew roundup: Just one: producer Elvin Feltner also produced “Teen-Age Strangler,” another movie with a “locals hired to act for the first time in their lives” air.
• Classic riff: “Put your shoes on, honey, we’re almost at Grandma’s.”
• Callbacks: “Watch Out for Snakes!” (Eegah).
• Fave riff: “Two words: cattle prod.” Honorable mention: “Polov!” “Did he just pitch them a ‘Planet of the Apes’ sequel?”

127 Replies to “Episode Guide: 1112- Carnival Magic”

  1. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny’s nonchalance:
    What I don’t understand is why anyone would actually be rooting for a human being to put up with abuse forever without developing a backbone.

    Because…it’s just a show. And no one’s going to watch a show where the main characters are constantly demoralized (insert riff here).

    We can clearly see that Joel, and later Mike, almost never actually suffer. Sure, being imprisoned is a drag, but it’s a FUN prison, isn’t it? We only see Human and the Bots for less than two hours at a time and even then they’re as often as not enjoying themselves when not in the theater. Human and the Bots are up there 24/7 365 days a year, who knows how much fun we’ve missed? Sure Joel and Mike have their occasional…breaks with reality, but they always snap out of it.

    That’s part of why (as I’ve stated too many times before) I think the SOL bridge’s new look during the Sci-Fi Channel era was a big mistake. The older bridge was bright and cheerful, kind of like a kid’s show setting (which makes sense because, you know, puppets). The depressing proto-Borg look, well, cripes, I’d be in the depths of near-suicidal despair just from a few days of knowing that I’d be surrounded by THAT for the rest of my life…

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  2. touches no one's life, then leaves: Because…it’s just a show. And no one’s going to watch a show where the main characters are constantly demoralized (insert riff here).

    (Y’mean, a show where they’re constantly crabby, sour, negative, cynical, impatient, and shouting “Okay, you can end this scene any time now!”?) ;)

    We can clearly see that Joel, and later Mike, almost never actually suffer. Sure, being imprisoned is a drag, but it’s a FUN prison, isn’t it? We only see Human and the Bots for less than two hours at a time and even then they’re as often as not enjoying themselves when not in the theater. Human and the Bots are up there 24/7 365 days a year, who knows how much fun we’ve missed? Sure Joel and Mike have their occasional…breaks with reality, but they always snap out of it

    As the old theme said, you make lemonade. (As opposed to other riffers, who think they have to make their own “lemonade” ON the movie….)
    Again, it’s hard to understand if you’ve only grown up in cineplexes and been demoralized going to just about EVERY movie…Unless you go to one of the CT or RT live shows in a big traditional theater with a whole crowd of like-minded folk, and then it’s so fun to be part of a lively audience! You’re just paying Ticketmaster prices to get what folks a generation before you took for granted.

    In our old college-town all-nighters, where they would dig up old sci-fi rarities, one time it was the coldest February, it was after midnight in a college-town with one main street, there was nowhere else to go but the bridge lobby, the theater was showing some old rare foreign silent movie (think it was Lotte Reiniger’s shadow-puppet version of Baron Munchhausen)…and the heat went out. J&tB can only pretend to be sitting suffering in a theater stranded in the middle of the cold blackness of unforgiving space watching completely unexplained things jump about the screen for ninety minutes, but that was our reality at that moment. We may not have been in as fun a mood as we were in other movies, but to say were were a rowdy audience that night is putting it mildly.
    I can’t 100% say it was FUN, but looking back, I have better memories of sitting in that audience than I do of seeing Incredibles 2 in the shopping-mall Cinemark two weeks ago.

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  3. Ultimately, we’re lashing out at everyone else because we’re miserable now and miss the happier times of our youth.

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  4. MonkeyPretzel says:

    touches no one's life, then leaves: Because…it’s just a show. And no one’s going to watch a show where the main characters are constantly demoralized (insert riff here).

    We can clearly see that Joel, and later Mike, almost never actually suffer. Sure, being imprisoned is a drag, but it’s a FUN prison, isn’t it? We only see Human and the Bots for less than two hours at a time and even then they’re as often as not enjoying themselves when not in the theater. Human and the Bots are up there 24/7 365 days a year, who knows how much fun we’ve missed? Sure Joel and Mike have their occasional…breaks with reality, but they always snap out of it.

    That’s part of why (as I’ve stated too many times before) I think the SOL bridge’s new look during the Sci-Fi Channel era was a big mistake. The older bridge was bright and cheerful, kind of like a kid’s show setting (which makes sense because, you know, puppets). The depressing proto-Borg look, well, cripes, I’d be in the depths of near-suicidal despair just from a few days of knowing that I’d be surrounded by THAT for the rest of my life…

    I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of interviews about MST3K I’ve perused that the darker, moodier bridge lighting helped Mike with his headaches/migraines. As an occasional migraine sufferer, I can attest that one of the last things you want when you are in pain are bright lights shining in your face. Some people even have their headaches trigger from bright light. So while it was an aesthetic choice, it had a beneficial side effect of making filming a little easier for Mike.

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  5. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    The Original EricJ: (Y’mean, a show where they’re constantly crabby, sour, negative, cynical, impatient, and shouting “Okay, you can end this scene any time now!”?) ;)

    As the old theme said, you make lemonade.(As opposed to other riffers, who think they have to make their own “lemonade” ON the movie….)
    Again, it’s hard to understand if you’ve only grown up in cineplexes and been demoralized going to just about EVERY movie…Unless you go to one of the CT or RT live shows in a big traditional theater with a whole crowd of like-minded folk, and then it’s so fun to be part of a lively audience!You’re just paying Ticketmaster prices to get what folks a generation before you took for granted.

    In our old college-town all-nighters, where they would dig up old sci-fi rarities, one time it was the coldest February, it was after midnight in a college-town with one main street, there was nowhere else to go but the bridge lobby, the theater was showing some old rare foreign silent movie (think it was Lotte Reiniger’s shadow-puppet version of Baron Munchhausen)…and the heat went out.J&tB can only pretend to be sitting suffering in a theater stranded in the middle of the cold blackness of unforgiving space watching completely unexplained things jump about the screen for ninety minutes, but that was our reality at that moment.We may not have been in as fun a mood as we were in other movies, but to say were were a rowdy audience that night is putting it mildly.
    I can’t 100% say it was FUN, but looking back, I have better memories of sitting in that audience than I do of seeing Incredibles 2 in the shopping-mall Cinemark two weeks ago.

    Why do you make posts that you know no one wants to read?

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  6. SmudgyTheBootblack:
    Ultimately, we’re lashing out at everyone else because we’re miserable now and miss the happier times of our youth.

    Like…shows from twenty years go when we still watched cable, f’rinst.

    touches no one’s life, then leaves: Why do you make posts that you know no one wants to read?

    Stuff you WANT to read is boring. :)

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  7. Johnny's nonchalance says:

    touches no one's life, then leaves: Because…it’s just a show. And no one’s going to watch a show where the main characters are constantly demoralized (insert riff here).

    We can clearly see that Joel, and later Mike, almost never actually suffer. Sure, being imprisoned is a drag, but it’s a FUN prison, isn’t it? We only see Human and the Bots for less than two hours at a time and even then they’re as often as not enjoying themselves when not in the theater. Human and the Bots are up there 24/7 365 days a year, who knows how much fun we’ve missed? Sure Joel and Mike have their occasional…breaks with reality, but they always snap out of it.

    That’s part of why (as I’ve stated too many times before) I think the SOL bridge’s new look during the Sci-Fi Channel era was a big mistake. The older bridge was bright and cheerful, kind of like a kid’s show setting (which makes sense because, you know, puppets). The depressing proto-Borg look, well, cripes, I’d be in the depths of near-suicidal despair just from a few days of knowing that I’d be surrounded by THAT for the rest of my life…

    Ummm… it seems like you are agreeing with my point. What was it you think I was saying?

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  8. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    (I apologize for dignifying him with a reply, but it’s only a short one)

    The Original EricJ:
    Stuff you WANT to read is boring.:)

    No, it isn’t. Otherwise one wouldn’t want to read it.

    Do you honestly not get that most of the people in here GENUINELY DISLIKE YOU?

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  9. Mr. Krasker says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:

    Do you honestly not get that most of the people in here GENUINELY DISLIKE YOU?

    Note also that he apparently believes that his contributions are interesting. So much delusion.

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  10. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -The Iron Butterfly is a cool name! Is sounds familiar… is it a reference to something?

    She’s a fictional character who first appeared in Captain America #288 (1983)…although she was evidently named after the band that’s already been mentioned. Life’s a wondrous tapestry, innit? ;-)

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  11. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    That picture up there keeps making me think of Century 21 Calling. Odd.

    The Original EricJ: Admit it, once ticket prices went up past $10, we stopped walking out on bad movies in the theater, didn’t we?

    Now that you mention it, the last time I went to a theater was to watch a live performance of Rifftrax. And that was “Jack the Giant Killer,” many years ago. My usual film habits are restricted to DVDs that I own or occasionally check out of the library. In fact, MST3K Season 11 constitutes well over 50% of the “films” that I’ve watched in the past six months. Not that anyone asked. ;-)

    The Original EricJ:
    At least they’re not snickering, contemptuous-pffting, and tee-hee giggling, and impatiently trying to race through the “wastes” of 90 minutes of their lives that buffoonish/unthreatening Mads are sending them…

    I always thought Joel did that rather well.

    The Original EricJ:
    Joel and the CC-era played up how the characters’ sanity was being driven to the breaking point by these bad movies, through Rock-Climbing, or “Castle of Fu Manchu”, or having to cheer a hysterically sobbing Servo up as a hap-py king (doo-do-do-dooo!) after “Monster a-Go-Go”.

    And exactly how many episodes took that approach? Five or six? Out of EIGHTY-SIX?

    If I had to pick a worst episode of the Joel years it would be, no contest, Castle of Fu Manchu precisely because of what you’ve highlighted about it (if those are your favorite parts, it explains much about how neurotic you are). I watch MST3K to be entertained and seeing beloved characters in the throes of despair does not entertain me.

    Wait a minute. That’s why YOU’RE always trying to inflict emotional pain, isn’t it?!

    dakotaboy:
    – Listen carefully to the carnival barker – he skims an unsuspecting victim out of fifty cents.

    I suppose they do those things.

    Johnny’s nonchalance:
    Fallacy? You keep using that word

    I do not think it means what he thinks it means…

    The Original EricJ:
    It’s exactly the same thing when we hear Jon Stewart or Jon Oliver do political jokes:

    I don’t do that, either. Cripes, no wonder you’re in such a disagreeable mood all the time. The pieces are falling into place right and left. And yet I Just Don’t Care.

    tomrite:
    Guys and gals, you’re missing something big here: “Who’s that on the bridge for a moment in segment 3?”

    Shrug. More often than not I skip past the host segments of Season 11. That’s just me, of course. Many people enjoy them immensely and that’s A-OK by me. :-)

    thequietman:
    The riff as the van drives off (No, not that way! Look out for the cliff! AAAUUGHH!) seemed like a throwback to the “Camera 2 get off the track!!” riff from ‘Girl in Lover’s Lane’.

    Shouldn’t there have been Riding with Death callbacks, though? Or at least a shout of “Vaaaaaaannnnnnnce!”?

    thequietman:
    There’s no reason I should be attracted to another species and yet here I am!

    The heart wants what it wants. Whoever wrote The Book of Love was one sick b_stard…

    Dan in WI:
    Callback sight gag. Crow gets nauseous during scenes of the carnival rides. It’s not the first time Crow has been queasy in the theater.

    Isn’t it usually the credits that make him sick, though? Also, I’m not sure it qualifies as a sight gag if it also involves dialogue. ;-)

    Sitting Duck:
    Business just hasn’t been the same since the Rapture, and everyone left behind is so sinful.

    Well, how many un-sinful people attend carnivals in the first place?

    yelling_into_the_void:
    “Damn tiger shot me.” Good!

    “And then a lion jumped out and shot her.”

    Lisa H.:
    Why does none of the carnival audience seem to think it terribly remarkable that there’s a talking chimpanzee? They just sort of chuckle along rather than being wowed.

    They Just Didn’t Care.

    Carnies aren’t known for maintaining much of a sense of wonder. They don’t look at life, they’re bitter.

    Watch-out-for-Snakes:
    This episode sees Kinga’s proposal (plot movement!)

    Just when we’re startin’ to have fun, we get saddled with a PLOT” — Buster Bunny

    Watch-out-for-Snakes:
    Crow:“A lot of unattended kids at this carnival.”

    This was back in the era of free-range parenting, don’cha know.

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  12. Speedy B. says:

    My favorite scene in this episode is when the chimp is doing mundane things and Jonah and the bots marvel at them.

    “Good? He’s the best! I mean, look at that thing hanging down!”

    “USA! USA! USA!”

    “HE IS IN THE REFRIGERATOR!” “IT’S ORANGE JUICE!!!”

    (when the chimp offers a kiss) “Whoa, too far.”

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  13. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    SAMPO: I noted that it reminds me very much of “Carnival of Souls” and I still think so. Both have that “locals hired to act for the first time in their lives” air to them

    Everybody has to start somewhere. And if they end there as well, them’s the breaks.

    For a similar example, refer to The Howling: New Moon Rising. Then regret it.

    gf120581:
    I’d describe this film as what would happen if a hardcore pornographer decided to make a family film.

    Actually, based upon what I’ve read on the subject (hey, film is film), the production values in 1970s pornography didn’t quite rise to this film’s. They occasionally had super-heroes, though, so there’s that.

    gf120581:
    Watch this and you feel like taking a shower afterwards.

    But not like having a good cry. So there’s that to distinguish it from “Child Bride,” anyway.

    Did anyone else know that in some parts of the United States, child marriage is STILL legal? Roll that around in your heads for a while…

    gf120581:
    – As if the presence of Phil Spector’s victim in “Wizards 2” wasn’t disturbing enough, there’s also Adamson’s ultimate fate: Murdered by his live-in contractor and found entombed under his whirlpool.And much like Ed Wood, he was apparently a really decent guy who definitely did not deserve his fate.

    You seem to be operating from the premise that it’s possible to “deserve” to be murdered. I respectfully disconcur.

    gf120581:
    – Was Adamson expecting “The Girl in the Car” to be a big scene stealing, star-making role?

    Worked for the couple in Manos.

    gf120581:
    – Anyone have any idea where that doctor’s accent came from?

    Europe

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  14. Johnny Drama says:

    touches no one's life, then leaves:

    Shrug. More often than not I skip past the host segments of Season 11. That’s just me, of course. Many people enjoy them immensely and that’s A-OK by me. :-)

    So you only watch partial episodes. HERETIC! THIS GUY IS NOT ONE OF US! Lol
    I’ll never understand host segment skippers. What, do you think this is Rifftrax or something? Oh well, more host segment goodness for me! :)

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  15. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Well, I said “more often than not,” not “always.” Besides, as noted I was referring just to Season 11. The Jonah/neo-Crow/neo-Servo dynamic outside the theater just isn’t doing it for me. They’re trying to re-create the sort of chemistry that it took YEARS to perfect and it just doesn’t work that way.

    Volcanosaurus Rex:
    was there supposed to be a message in this collection of behind-the-scenes carnival footage?

    “We’re at a carnival, see? See all the carnival stuff? Look how much we’re at a carnival. We’re more at a carnival than you’d be anywhere else, I’ll tell you that.”

    Remembering:
    “Okay, there’s a fair that figures prominently in the movie, we know!”

    Danzilla “Cornjob” McLargeHuge, Student of Kaijuology:
    -Kinga’s line about about being a girl standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her, is a nearly direct quote from the British romantic comedy Notting Hill, staring Julia Roberts as a Hollywood superstar and Hugh Grant as a lowly British bookshop owner.A pretty funny and sweet little chick flick, actually…

    Chick Flicks: Should They Too Be Riffed? That’s NOT Our Focus for Today. Another Time, Perhaps.

    It goes without saying (and yet…) that said flicks should tend more toward drama than comedy, because bad comedy isn’t funny.

    jay:
    Kate, the bosomy, worn out, semi-older woman of the “circus” was easily my favorite character.

    It wasn’t a CIRCUS, it was a CARNIVAL (did the movie somehow fail to convey that?). Many a circus employee will gladly explain the difference to you. At length.

    tibber:
    Also, Carnival of Souls is actually really good as long as no one is talking.

    Isn’t like three-fourths of it totally lacking in dialogue, though? That would mean it literally ain’t half-bad.

    majorjoe23:
    If anyone is wondering why this film has such an odd tone, it’s because director Al Adamson primarily did horror films. He directed the film from the first Cinematic Titanic release, The Oozing Skull (originally called Brian of Blood) and Dynamite Brothers, which CT riffed as East Meets Watts.

    Both of them excellent endeavors, too. :-)

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  16. TheAngryBanjo says:

    That feels like a “bit”, probably from writers that grew up with the forced self-conscious bits M&tB had to write for those long, long SciFi credit scenes–
    But that felt like “Stuff comics write when they couldn’t care less about the movie”, while Jonah&tB’s was more “Self-conscious scripted riff material ahead of time, since there’s no collaborative riffing”, and the 10’s writers were so pleased that they could do “current” Marvel jokes for the new kids.

    It would have been nice to get a few riffs on the parade (sort of like a non-crabby version of “Fun in Balloonland”‘s parade riffs), but at least as a “bit”, it’s not as painfully self-aware as the Femmy-Movie Game, or What Happened to Our Hero Afterwards, and it’s one of the things we’re all crossing our fingers for S12 to fix.

    Well, aren’t we a little bundle of sunshine and optimisim.

    Seriously, what do you have against Mike? Did he break into your house and pee in your corn flakes?

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  17. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    The Original EricJ:
    what was even remotely the POINT of having a “talking chimp” who grumbles monosyllabically and never says anything particularly funny or outrageous?

    Why didn’t any of the human actors say anything particularly funny or outrageous? It had no point and that was the point. It’s subversive. Or ironic. Or a foam peanut. Something like that.

    The Original EricJ:
    It does have that fever-dream quality that only Manos, Hobgoblins and Monster a-Go-Go possessed, yes.

    Well, at least two out of those three are considered among MST3K’s best, so I’m not sure that’s the kind of comparison you had in mind.

    gf120581: That’s another trait this movie shares with “Cry Wilderness”; you have absolutely no idea who the target audience for this movie was for.

    A monkey-fetishest named Ollie? Hope he didn’t miss it.

    Or alternatively, just anybody. Back then, there were even more people who’d watch ANYTHING than there are today.

    The Original EricJ:
    In the CC-era, the mere sight of a chimp would bring in TCC callbacks of Lancelot Link refs (“Hello, Mata”

    “Hello, Harry.”

    Or, alternatively,
    “Hello, Fata.”

    Sitting Duck:
    I seem to recall there being a promo for a T.E.D. Talk during one of the Fathom Events trailers shown before a Rifftrax Live show I attended (can’t recall which one). My initial impression

    T.E.D.? Initial impression? What is that, some kind of joke?
    ;-)

    Sitting Duck:
    And why was his ADR so noticably shoddy?

    Budget cuts, y’know.

    gf120581:
    Yes, that was especially disturbing.Forcing her to dress and act like a prepubescent boy because otherwise she’d turn into her mother and leave him?

    When you think about it (“So don’t think about it.”), she was in a semi-lawless environment dominated by unscrupulous sweaty men who weren’t likely to have much luck scoring with female customers. In such an environment, many a girl or woman would dress and act like a prepubescent boy just as a survival tactic. When you’re one of the boys, there’s less chance of them thinking too much about how you have girl parts…

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  18. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    touches no one's life, then leaves:
    Well, I said “more often than not,” not “always.” Besides, as noted I was referring just to Season 11. The Jonah/neo-Crow/neo-Servo dynamic outside the theater just isn’t doing it for me. They’re trying to re-create the sort of chemistry that it took YEARS to perfect and it just doesn’t work that way.

    That said (and recognizing that no one much cares to begin with), I’ll admit I skip the host segments in earlier seasons now and then. Probably more during the SFC years than the CC years, because the Brains were getting more and more hostile and bitter, because Bill Corbett’s voice got on my nerves too easily, and because I really never much cared for Pearl, Bobo, and Brain Guy in the first place. Plus, as I’ve repeated too many times already, the SFC era bridge depressed me if I looked at it too long. CC episodes whose host segments I didn’t care for include (as noted) Castle of Fu Manchu, Fire Maidens from Outer Space, Colossus and the Headhunters, San Francisco International, and others not occurring to me at the moment.

    I didn’t much care for the host segments in Cinematic Titanic or in Film Crew, either. I’m in it for the RIFFS, baby. ;-)

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  19. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Speedy B.:
    My favorite scene in this episode is when the chimp is doing mundane things and Jonah and the bots marvel at them.

    And, as just one more contrast, that’s the part of the episode that I absolutely could not stand. The fact that you enjoyed it doesn’t bother me a bit, though. ;-)

    TheAngryBanjo:
    Seriously, what do you have against Mike?

    He’s Newman to Mike’s Seinfeld.

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  20. Cornjob says:

    One puzzling thing about this film is that if the talking chimp aspect was dubbed in later as an after thought after the movie proper was filmed, then in the original storyline how was the addition of a chimp that does very little going to save the carnival by drawing in the crowds. Especially if the potentially man eating big cats the carnival already had didn’t do the trick? The chimp talking is the only remarkable thing going on, even if it’s used to no effect. So what was the movie even about before the “talking” bit was tacked on?

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  21. Sitting Duck says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:

    Sitting Duck:
    I seem to recall there being a promo for a T.E.D. Talk during one of the Fathom Events trailers shown before a Rifftrax Live show I attended (can’t recall which one). My initial impression was that they come off as gassy as the prologue host segment makes them out to be.

    T.E.D.? Initial impression? What is that, some kind of joke?
    ;-)

    I wish I could say I intended that. But to be honest, that was a complete accident.

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  22. Johnny Drama says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves:

    I didn’t much care for the host segments in Cinematic Titanic or in Film Crew, either. I’m in it for the RIFFS, baby. ;-)

    So, half a fan, duly noted lmao
    I’ll do you one better, I not only skip the host segs of the SciFi era, I skip the episodes altogether!
    And Sampo, bad meat does not have a stinky charm ;)

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  23. Johnny Drama says:

    TheAngryBanjo:

    Seriously, what do you have against Mike?

    If you couldn’t gather from EricJs posts, he feels that Mike’s style of humor is bully-ish, and it offends him. He feels that the Joel and Jonah eras do not use bully humor, but instead are more clever towards the movies. This is just his opinion, and he’s entitled to it.
    And he’s never once asked anyone to delete their account.

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  24. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Johnny Drama: If you couldn’t gather from EricJs posts, he feels that Mike’s style of humor is bully-ish, and it offends him.

    Well, I’ve certainly never gathered that and I’ve been, well, skimming and occasionally fully reading his posts for years, so thanks for the info…which does nothing to alter my opinion that he’s a thoroughly unpleasant person, though.

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  25. Gary Carbo says:

    If you’re interested, you go to Youtube search for “The New Detectives” then the episdoe “Buried Secrets” it covers the murder of the director. Its the last segment.

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  26. Johnny Drama: Ignored says

    If you don’t think J&TB showed contempt for the movies go back and watch episode 416. Honestly, I don’t understand the constant bickering over who was the better host on this site.
    Can’t we just enjoy the show?
    I began watching it during season 8. It’s my favorite season by far, and to be honest, I think Mike is a funnier host. Does that make me a bully? Less intelligent?
    I love episodes from all the eras. They all have their strengths, and weaknesses.
    I come to this site to commiserate with other Msties. Please, let’s not turn this into any other hate-spewing social media nightmare.

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  27. GareChicago says:

    Johnny Drama: If you couldn’t gather from EricJs posts, he feels thatMike’s style of humor is bully-ish, and it offends him. He feels that the Joel and Jonah eras do not use bully humor, but instead are more clever towards the movies. This is just his opinion, and he’s entitled to it.
    And he’s never once asked anyone to delete their account.

    Piffle.

    It’s not about whether or not he’s entitled to his opinion; he can think whatever the hell he wants.

    It’s the constant droning, on and on, about how much Mike sucks, and how everything was better under Saint Joel. He expresses this on a regular basis – it gets old.

    And while that would be annoying enough, he does it in the most condescending, dick-ish way possible. Your defense of him is baffling.

    For anyone who’s been around long enough, it’s easy to spot a living, breathing troll. This isn’t about a difference of opinion – this is about asking a disagreeable, arrogant weenie to delete his account. It’s really quite simple.

    Gare

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