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Episode guide: 816- Prince of Space

Movie: (1956) When the chickeney Phantom of Krankor attacks Japan, a slim-hipped hero arrives to save the day.

First shown: 8/16/97
Opening: Crow and Tom’s “Dog and Bear” game gets out of hand
Intro: Bobo, then the Widowmaker, then the SOL are dragged into a wormhole
Host segment 1: M&tB are unstuck in time
Host segment 2: Mike is transformed into a small robot
Host segment 3: The wormhole deposits M&tB in a rather lovely sylvan glen
End: All seems normal again on the SOL (except for the presense of Krankor), but Pearl and Observer have arrived on Earth in Roman times!
Stinger: The Phantom says: “Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah!”
1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (241 votes, average: 4.74 out of 5)

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• Bridget’s take on this episode is here.
• Of course, with this episode, into the wormhole we go. And while the “Roman times” story arc is, in my view, a mixed bag at best (more on that starting next time), this episode, which takes place in the wormhole itself, is one of the best of season 8. The movie is profoundly stupid and feels very season-three-ish, the riffing is excellent and the host segments are clever and fun.
• This episode was included in Rhino’s The Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection, Vol. 7.
• References. http://www.annotatedmst.com/episodes/princeofspace/index.htm
• Is that “dog and bear” dialog from something? (A commenter suggested it was inspired by Jack London’s “Call of the Wild.”)
• “I like it very much!” became an immediate catchphrase and soon appeared on an MST3k bumper sticker.
• Some fans got a bit fed up with all the Japan bashing in this episode, and while I don’t agree that it was as bad as they made out, I WILL acknowledge that this show has FOUR “cram school” jokes.
• Did you enjoy the “Hardrock and Coco and Joe,” reference. Watch the whole thing here.
• Also: When there is a high-pitched, evil laugh, Crow intones “Rrrrraceway Park!” that’s a reference to radio commercials for this drag racing venue. I assume that riff came from Bill, who at this point replaced Frank as the source of East Coast references.
• Kudos to the Brains on getting the complicated time lag sketch right! That must have been tough to write! After the sketch, Mike and Tom are already in the theater and Crow, still lagging, joins them.
• Robot Mike does a theater segment. I like a nice detail on the Mike puppet in theater—he has a headset!
• Very typical of this show, when Mike returns as himself, he simply announces that he “got better.” Nuff said!
• Callback from the old days: a Gamera reference!
• Note that the door sequence leading to the “sylvan glen” segment ends with a real bone slamming over a wooden door. The segment is a little startling: It reminds you how studio-bound the show was. I don’t remember where I saw this, it may have been one of the Scifi.com IRC chats, but at some point one of the Brains said that the sylvan glen was only a short walk from the studio. I believe that. The area around the studio was definitely a mix of office park and what I presume was as-yet-undeveloped former farm land.
• That’s Bill as Krankor, or course.
• Cast and crew roundup: The producer of the American version, Walter H. Manley, did likewise for “The Green Slime. Screen writer Shin Morita also wrote–dull surprise–“Invasion of the Neptune Men.”
• Creditwatch. That’s Kevin, of course, as Callipygeas (which roughly means “fat ass”) and Bridget as Favia. Kevin produced and directed. Andrea Ducane did hair and makeup for every season 8 episode except this one, when one Sharon Davis filled in. Mike Parker is back as grip (after two episodes off) and will be for the rest of the season. John Simms, who had an “SFX/foley” credit for six episodes earlier in the season, reappears as “boom operator,” which will continue for the rest of the season.
• Fave riff: “Oh, fer cryin’ out loud … EACH OF YOU…” Honorable mention: “Oh the inanity!” “Oh the Japanity!”

153 comments to Episode guide: 816- Prince of Space

  • 1
    OnenuttyTanuki says:

    One of my favorite episodes.
    I’m currently planning to do a Krankor costume for a convention next year. That is if I can convince my friend to dress up as Prince of Space.

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  • 2
    Ator In Flight says:

    Oh the humanity! Oh the Japanity! Good episode,this movie is kind of like the Plan 9 of Japan.

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  • 3
    turkeyschmo says:

    I thought you would skip a week, due to it being Thanksgiving. But then, what’s Thanksgiving without MST3K?

    That said, uhh— I don’t have this episode.

    D’oh!!

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  • 4
    Spector says:

    “Ator in Flight” nails it, this is Japan’s version of “Plan 9 from Outer Space”. It really does have an Ed Wood quality to it which makes it so delightfully bad and such tremendous fodder for the Brains.

    I disagree with Sampo that this is the best episode of Season 8 (The Giant Spider Invasion gets my vote) but this one definitely ranks a close second and is among the best in the show’s history.

    As Sampo noted the host segments as they travel through the wormhole are priceless, especially the one where Mike from an alternative universe appears as a puppet and is promptly mocked and bullied by Tom and Crow.

    So many memorable riffs in this one too.

    “Crank-whore?”

    “Krankor nothing to worry about”

    “Truman Capote sent to fight Krankor”.

    “Go away, unfunny weird man!”

    “What’s wrong with boot-blacking? We like it very much!”

    “More squid eyes?”

    “We have to swing in for some violent porn comics”.

    “Ah, the Stanley Cup has invaded Earth, hmmm”.

    “I am the lemon zester of destruction!”

    “I saw some smoke, it’s time for lunch, look at the street”.

    “I’m not afraid, you wearing a tie, go on home”.

    “Ah ruff-a-roo, Ah bow-a-wow”.

    And of course Tom clucking like a chicken every time Krankor and his henchmen appear on screen. Every “buck-aaa” never fails to make me laugh.

    This episode is yet another example why Season 8 was among the best in series history.

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  • 5
    Spector says:

    Oh, forgot the ranking. Five out of five!

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  • 6
    Kenneth Morgan says:

    Easily one of the funniest movies and funniest eps of the entire series, let alone this era. The movie is wonderfully goofy, the segnent with the Mike puppet is hilarious and the glen is a nice change of pace. (Is it still there, or has it been replaced by more offices?)

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  • 7
    monoceros4 says:

    Oh, goodness gracious. An immortal low point in the career of “Mystery Science Theater”. Quite possibly I’ve seen this episode more times than any other because everything and everyone in the movie is so thoroughly, utterly, hopelessly stupid. The “Plan 9″ aliens are geniuses compared to the Krankorians.

    Not one character in this movie has a scrap of dignity or intelligence or likability to display. The giant infant scientists really do look like they’d wet themselves and run in circles if the Prince weren’t there to shepherd them from room to room. And, for all that, when it looks like he and they are trapped, the ungrateful babies all gather round and stare daggers at him like the Prince had forgotten to get them birthday presents. (“What? What’re you lookin’ at?”) The Phantom alternates between, “He’s finished, a haa haa haa!” and “Well, maybe he survived,” at least as many times as the Prince tells everyone that their guns will have no effect on him. (“Shoot him!” “Brilliant new plan, sir!”)

    And then there’s the children. Oh, Lord, the children. Of course the obligatory children that seem to go everywhere in these Japanese movies annoy me, although most of them are tolerable annoyances. But you have exceptions, like the certifiably psychotic Kenny from Gamera, but even he’s more sympathetic than Mickey in Prince of Space. Why does Wally care about saving the snivelling little parasite? Mickey insults Wally multiple times while exhibiting his own boundless courage by screaming every ten seconds for the Prince to save his worthless ass. Given the gift of Jimmy Olson’s watch, Mickey prepares to abuse it at the opportunity by summoning the Prince “even though we’re not in any trouble really.” (Of course, trouble does appear, but he didn’t know it would.) Thankfully the last segment of the movie is almost Mickey-free.

    And that poor fighter pilot. It would suck beyond measure if, just before I died, the last human words I ever heard were endless repetitions of, “What? What’s the matter? What’s that? What’d you say?” Why is every single human in this movie unable to grasp simple statements without needing them repeated? Is it just to pad the running time?

    It isn’t just the overall plot that makes no sense, even individual scenes and single sentences aren’t consistent with each other! “We’re eating.” “You eat later. What’s with you? EAT I TELL YOU!!” Or there’s Mickey’s bizarre non sequiturs. “Are you afraid of those space men?” “Sure I am!” “What for, you’re not going to be any help if you get frightened easy as that?” So…Wally shouldn’t be afraid because he’s too afraid? Huh?

    Of course it’s possible that the original movie (or movies rather) or its characters weren’t quite this moronic. It might have been a hostile editing and dubbing job that’s to blame for all this, although I suspect that the ugly goes right down to the bone.

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  • 8
    monoceros4 says:

    Ah, one more thing. The host segment where everyone’s a few seconds ahead of or behind everyone else is one of the cleverest time-travel bits I’ve ever seen. Mike &c. must have rehearsed it meticulously to ensure everyone hit their cues as smoothly as they did.

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  • 9
    WeatherServo9 says:

    I understand Beaver Falls, Japan, is lovely this time of year.

    Also, who wants to watch the world championship?

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  • 10
    mikek says:

    5 stars! This episode is great. All of the host segments are well done. Crow’s narrative of his game of “Dog and Bear” with Servo is great. The time lag sketch is well timed. I really respect them for pulling that off. Robo-Mike was very funny. One thing I noticed about that sketch is that Mike’s voice seems to be separate from the puppet’s mouth movements. Perhaps Mike dubbed in his lines in post-production? Bill was good as Krankor, but I never thought of Krankor’s costume as being yellow. I like the Roman times sketches.

    As for the movie, it is truly awful. The movie is so damned repetitive and stupid. So this is what passed for entertainment for Japanese children in the 1950s? What is with Dr. Makken’s assumption as to why Krankor wanted the rocket fuel he invented? All they did was see a simple TV broadcast from Krankor and he comes to that conclusion?

    I wish, just for once, that the Prince of Space would have been injured by Krankor’s weapons. “You’re weapons are useless against me!” It’s my opinion that something was lost in the translation and there must be some other reason why the Prince is invulnerable.

    I like Krankor. He seems like a good boss. He certainly treats his henchmen well.

    Fave riffs:

    “Somebody left a perfectly good refrigerator over there.”

    “What a handsome woman.”

    Now, lets look at something we’d rather not look at, areas. This movie has largest (and ironically smallest Wink ) amount of disturbing areas, batches, or whatever you want to call them, in a MSTed movie. The costume designer for this movie failed to consider what thin fabric might reveal when clothing Krankor and his men.

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  • 11
    monoceros4 says:

    What is with Dr. Makken’s assumption as to why Krankor wanted the rocket fuel he invented?

    Especially since the reporter’s asking him, “But don’t they already have space travel?” actually seemed to floor him for a second, as though it hadn’t occurred to him before? “Uh…seems like you’re right.”

    Is it Makken, Mackin, Mockin, Macon, Mackey…I’m pretty sure I heard all of those. Hostile dubbing, I tell you.

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  • 12
    Evan K says:

    Has anyone seen my chicken puppet?

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  • 13
    The Bolem says:

    You know how some movies inspire you to make your own movie? This one does so more than any other SOL experiment. Specifically, bits of the never-to-be sequel, “Prince of Space Saves Christmas” start running through my head whenever I watch this. Why, what with just having watched Santa receive the key to Detroit mere hours ago (tragically, for even less than the cost of the Silverdome), I can see more clearly than ever the Phantom of Krankor donning similar garb and declaring…

    “So by impersonating this deity to which the Earth children refer as ‘SANTA CLAUS’, I can gain their trust and use it as the first step in my conquest of this puny insignificant world!”

    (Cut to Krankor seated in mall with henchmen dressed like elves and child on lap)

    “Why, ‘Merry Christmas’ my good child and (leans head down directly into child’s face) HHAAAAHNHHHH! HAAAAAHHHHH! HAAAAAHHHH! HAAAAHHHH! HAAAAHH! HAAHH! HAAAAAANHhhhhh…”

    (Suddenly, a familiar figure crashes down through the mall skylight)

    “(GASP) Prince of Space!”

    And…that’s about as far as I ever get. Yet this vision has only gotten stronger since learning that this “movie” was cobbled together from different installments, as I wonder just what was cut for time. Was this originally a serial? More like a TV series? How long was each episode? I’m almost interested enough to want to buy this epic saga in its original form.

    Almost.

    Since this was among Rhino’s first SciFi era releases (THE first in a set with CC eps?), I assumed “Invasion of the Neptune Men” couldn’t be far behind. Yet still we wait, possibly out of fear of angering mighty and unpredictable Toei, who produced IOTNM, but not this, right? It appears at a glance to be an even shoddier rip off of POS, but it’s probably more accurate to say they’re both in the same genre. I imagine Japan produced lots of stuff like this in the ’50s and ’60s as their take on our space-opera serials evolved into Sentai-ish fare in the ’70s (Ultraman, Dynamen), but please correct me if you know different.

    And speaking of old serials, a college roommate I watched this with had a theory that the appearance of Krankor’s chickenmen was a characature of how Asians stereotypically see westerners. If so, should Americans who grew up on Flash Gordon view Krankor as logical payback for our idea of Ming the Merciless? I’m not that well-versed in old serials/adventure comic strips, but his theory does make more sense the more I think about it…

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  • 14
    Kouban says:

    This episode has the single best opening segment of any episode of MST3K.
    One of my favorite riffs from this episode is when they show the establishing shot of the apartment building, and Crow goes into this extremely Japanese rendition of The Bob Newhart Show’s theme.

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  • 15
    Tim S. Turner says:

    One of the all-time greats. The Mike robot, the sylvan glen(weird and cool at the same time), and of course, my favorite Bill/Crow sketch, “Dog and Bear”. I find it interesting that everyone refers to the villain as Krankor, when Krankor is the planet and the bad guy’s name is Phantom. Oh well. Krankor sounds goofier, anyway. 5 stars.

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  • 16
    Tim S. Turner says:

    Oh, and get me a copy of “Baby Sun Hat Monthly”, will you?

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  • 17
    The Bolem says:

    I can’t believe I forgot why this is such an appropriate ep to discuss today: May the Krankorian Space-Turkey-Craft bless us all with its barrage of deadly giblets this Thanksgiving!

    Think the producers honestly didn’t realize that’s what the tapering rear thrusters made the “Black-Dragon-Ship” look like, or was it conscious continuity with the aliens intentionally resembling chickens?

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  • 18
    Stickboy says:

    Count “dog and bear” as one of my favorite sketches as well. I love the line, “Then Servo took it too far.”

    The movie is chocked full of stupidity and provides great riffing material.
    Exactly what were caustic vapors supposed to do in space?
    And why not just shoot the stupid scientists instead of the whole space capsule thing?
    And did you notice how easy it was to travel back and forth to Krankor? They make the trip like what, three times? I think they have plenty of rocket fuel.

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  • 19
    pablum says:

    Huh? What? Huh? Ooooh! Huh? What? All those silly exclamations can only mean Prince of Space is upon us!

    This may be my favorite Sci-Fi era episode. Best Brains and the Japanese were both at their comedic best.

    Unintentional or not, the movie itself is extremely funny on its own. Evil chicken men from outer space. A giant Ross Perot monster. Plus an ancient ancestor of the Power Rangers who shines shoes for a living as the hero who wears a costume his mom made him for Halloween (as do the villains). The riffs really write themselves here. Or maybe I just find Japanese kids’ films entertaining.

    The Phantom Dictator of Krankor is the best villain ever seen on MST3K. The costume. The iconic evil laugh. Trading impotent threats back and forth between the Prince. Desiring to kill “differen”. He’s a hoot.

    The riffs hit their mark every time for me in this episode. Pretty much all the jokes inside the theater were hilarious.

    The only knock on this episode were really just some of the off-topic season 8 storyline host segments, but I did enjoy Mike’s ventriloquist dummy robot and Krankor’s guest appearance. In fact both times Krankor shows up it makes for some of the best host segment material from the Sci-Fi era.

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  • 20
    MikeH says:

    I haven’t watched this in quite a while but I do remember the helpless scientists, Krankor and hid idiotic laugh (I think decribed once by the brains as a old Buick trying to start on a cold morning) and the friggin annoying kids. I would have not been sad if one of the kids got hit in any of the battles.

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  • 21
    pablum says:

    As for the Japan bashing, it was a little harsh here, but we still a couple episodes away from the heavy, venom-drenched attacks and tirades that await the tiny island nation.

    Show-spanning foreign country attacks appear to become the norm from here on in. The last person, place, or thing to get so much abuse to my memory was Joe Don Baker in Mitchell. But the Brains haven’t even started on the bashing they’ll soon be getting into. And of course Joe Don hasn’t seen the last of it either.

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  • 22
    monoceros4 says:

    Was the Japan bashing really that much worse than in the 3rd season episodes? While they saved their real venom for Sandy Frank, they threw in a lot of specifically Japanese remarks as well, e.g. cram school jokes, “We are filled withshame,” making fun of the foreign names (“Itchy”, “Cornjob”, &c.) and I’m sure there’s more.

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  • 23
    touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    >>>What is with Dr. Makken’s assumption as to why Krankor wanted the rocket fuel he invented? All they did was see a simple TV broadcast from Krankor and he comes to that conclusion?

    IIRC he prefaced his announcement with something like “Based on classified information I cannot share at this time.” So, you know, at least they TRIED to cover it.

    Anyway, the people who dubbed this movie — actually, also the people who MADE this movie — could never have imagined that 40+ years later it would be readily available for anyone to pick apart at whim. Well, maybe a couple of them could have, but I guess no one listened to them.

    At first I thought it was a major gap that we were given no idea how Wally had become Prince of Space (or vice versa; I mean, seriously, is he a human dressed as an alien or an alien working as a bootblack?). Then I found out that “Prince of Space” is actually a compilation of TWO movies about a character who had a pre-existing continuity in Japan thanks to his TV series, “Planet Prince.” So it’s still a major gap, but it’s more explicable. It’s possible that neither the two movies nor the TV series provided an origin either, of course.

    In the scene where Krankor sends his men back to Earth to see if Prince of Space survived, he tells them not to come back unless they find him. So he’s just PRESUMING he failed? Admittedly, that’s not much of a leap in context, but Evil Overlords should have more self-confidence.

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  • 24
    Watch-out-for-Snakes says:

    Another stand out Season 8 episode, and I like it very much!!!

    “Allow me to reference my earlier commentary on how your weapons are ineffective!”

    HAAR-HAR-HAAR-HAR-HAAR!!

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  • 25
    Fantagor says:

    Sampo:

    Read Call of the Wild by Jack London and you’ll get the inspiration for Dog and Bear.

    This and Invasion of the Neptune Men, in my opinion, define and propel Season 8 to the best in the run. The host segments are classics, better written than 99% of most TV shows, and make me laugh time and time again.

    Randy

    PS Has anyone seen my chicken puppet?

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  • 26
    Finnias Jones says:

    “Are you ever going to stop farting? Is that even a remote possibility?”

    This is the first Japanese film they did since the Season Three overdose of Gamera/Sandy Frank productions. Then just a few weeks later they did 819 Invasion of the Neptune Men, which is like a lo-res Xerox copy of this film. Honestly, I used to confuse the two, swearing that Neptune Men was also on a Rhino DVD.

    PoS is funny as hell, a Season 8 classic, despite me not knowing what “cram school” was. Some random notes:

    • When Phantom of Krankor has the five scientists held captive on his ship, he only introduces 3 of them to Prof. Makken. Despite the full-frame cropping, one can see there is another man there. We later see the Michael Palin-looking guy with mutton chops (“I’m from the 19th century, what does he want with me?”). Was this omission created by the Brains or is it in the original dub?

    • My latest theory is that our Prince/Wally is from Krankor himself, a “Fugitive Alien” if you will. This is how he is able to develop a technology that renders their weapons useless against him.

    • For the Adult Swim literate: The Phantom and his henchman remind me a lot of The Monarch and his crew from “The Venture Brothers”, surely one of the best shows on television today. Also, one episode (SGC2C – 84 – Kentucky Nightmare, viewable on YouTube) of the old “Space Ghost Coast to Coast” ends with SG, Zorak and Moltarr stranded in a real-life forest, kinda like this MST episode.

    • “Do you want to go faster? Raise your hand if you want to go faster!” said when the vaguely carousel-ish thing on the Krankor ship’s bridge is shown. I’ve heard this riff explained before, but I can’t recall if it’s to anything particular or just a generic carnival ride reference. One online source says it’s a quote from “Something Wicked This Way Comes” by Ray Bradbury. Anyone know for sure?

    Happy Turkey Day!

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  • 27

    As I recall, the reason everyone’s weapons are useless against Prince of Space is totally due to the dubbing. In the original, the Prince actually has the power to dodge the rays. The dub crew noticed that, well, he didn’t really make much effort to dodge anything and just decided to have him say that all the weapons were powerless against him.

    Anyway, this is also one of my favorites, which is why the callback in The Dark Knight Rifftrax is so awesome (you could say I like it very much). Probably my favorite part is the first appearance of Krankor’s guardian; Bill genuinely sounds completely amazed.

    “Wha? Look at that! Look at that!”
    “It’s a trip into Mike’s subconsicous.”
    “It’s pretty accurate, I gotta admit.”

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  • 28

    You know, I always felt that one thing that might have been interesting, in keeping with the whole bizarro theme of the time warping, would have been if when Mike became a robot, Servo and Crow became human, played by Kevin and Bill.

    Not to say it wasn’t an excellent episode anyway, and totally without any need of my ridiculous meddling. It is always a pleasure (and a pain, in regard to the film itself) to watch.

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  • 29

    #26 Finnias Jones:

    When Phantom of Krankor has the five scientists held captive on his ship, he only introduces 3 of them to Prof. Makken. Despite the full-frame cropping, one can see there is another man there.

    Listen very carefully and you’ll hear whiny Mr. I-forgot-to-water-your-plant say “and his assistant.” It goes by very fast, but it’s there.

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  • 30

    You can also hear bits of the original soundtrack through the poor dubbing; during some of the chase scenes, and especially at the end, when even M&tB make a remark about it.

    I have to wonder what it was the Japanese Don Knotts was saying in the original film that caused the two reporters to lean in and pay closer attention (“You’re fascinating!”). As it is, it’s just “So… they’re coming, then!” Was that the best they could do?

    And boy, the Japanese drove some big boxy American cars in those days, didn’t they?

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  • 31
    mikek says:

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    TrumpyCanDoMagicThings says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    “You know, I always felt that one thing that might have been interesting, in keeping with the whole bizarro theme of the time warping, would have been if when Mike became a robot, Servo and Crow became human, played by Kevin and Bill.”

    I hadn’t thought of that before that is a very interesting idea. Maybe Mike could have also been a completely different robot as well, not merely a repaint of Charlie McCarthy.

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  • 32
    Brandon says:

    Sampo, if I may finih your fav riff…

    “… WILL ENTER A SPACE CAPSEL!”

    I’m fond of “My coop! My beautiful, beautiful coop!”

    Also, like when the monter shows up and fights PoS, and Mike says, “This is STARTING to become a weird movie.”

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  • 33
    Kouban says:

    I wonder what the origin of the Dog and Bear sketch is. Did it arise from Crow “turning into” a bear for Jack Frost and them not wanting to waste a good puppet mod?

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  • 34
    H says:

    Ah, Prince of Space. This is a good one. Movie’s fun, lots to work with. Host segments are great, especially puppet Mike. Just an all around enjoyable experience.

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  • 35
    Matt D. says:

    A five star episode if there ever was one. My favorite riffs:

    “Krankor: Nothing To Worry About…Truman Capote Sent To Fight Krankor”

    “A Rare Godzilla-free Day”

    “Pagoda of the Damned”

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  • 36
    darthservo says:

    “The easily bamboozled Prince of Space!”

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  • 37
    Bat Masterson says:

    I have “more squid eyes?” burned into my brain.

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  • 38

    This is one that I looked forward to after first seeing Invasion of the Neptune Men during the Sci-fi era reruns in 2003, but sadly I was out of town during the final airing of Prince of Space and didn’t get the chance to record it. Thank goodness for Vol. 7.

    Movie:
    * Of course the dubbers Americanized the names of the characters. Heaven forbid American children should learn that people are different from them. This includes Krankor calling one of his henchmen “Mars.”
    * No one else has brought it up yet but the fact that Krankor and his men all forgot to wear underpants is far more disturbing than all of the buffalo shots in Outlaw of Gor.
    * Mike comments that Krankor’s plan is like a poorly planned bank heist. I think the whole movie was made up as they went along. What makes the least sense is why does Krankor travel back and forth between his home planet and earth no less than half a dozen times after staying at each one no more than five minutes? Also, wasn’t there a rocket formula that figured into the first half of the movie?
    * Favorite riffs:
    “An alien race too proud to ask for directions.” – Mike
    “This! This is the matter!” – Crow
    “Oh, for crying… EACH! OF! YOU! WILL! ENTER! A! SPACE! CAPSULE!”

    Host Segments:
    * I’m not really a big fan of the dog and bear sketch. It just never clicked with me and I usually skip it to get to the movie.
    * I will agree that the time lag sketch is one of their all-time best ones.
    * While people differ on the Roman times arc, it’s my personal favorite of the season and this is the perfect start for it.
    * Favorite line: “Would you just lasso the stupid ship, PLEASE?!”

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  • 39
    d-lo says:

    I love the part (one of many) where Krankor believes the Prince of Space has been defeated, and in triumph, randomly issues the order to “give everyone four hours off”. Something about that just cracks me up; maybe it’s the unaddressed concern of who will be piloting the ship while they all have this little break? And why four hours? Seems like an odd choice of number…

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  • 40
    Tork_110 says:

    There can never be enough Japan bashing. Never.

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  • 41
    Kathie Hagen says:

    I popped in my old homemade videotape of Prince of Space the night before Thanksgiving as a way to unwind after a trying day of food prep for the masses. And lo… it didn’t play! I tried everything & all I got was “They’re here” static & snow. But then you came through with this great episode guide! Thanks guys. Now push the button, Frank.

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  • 42
    The Bolem says:

    The most interesting thing about the Dog and Bear skit is that it might just hold the record for recycling one-time-only bot-mods from sketches as far apart as possible. While CrowBear was from a mere 3 eps previous, TomDog, if I’m not mistaken, made its sole prior appearance in the “Basil Rath-Bones, from Purina” commercial during the first break in The Magic Suh-Worrrd (I only saw the MST-hour version) half a decade earlier! Did their first Japanese movie in an even longer time make the Brains exceptionally nostalgic? Or did Bill always particularly like dog-costume Servo back when he was just a fan, and demand to have his Crow interact with it just once?

    So the Mike puppet was just a repainted Charlie McCarthy with wires jammed in its head? I always thought they made a conscious effort to make it look like a Thunderbird or one of their Supermarionation cousins, out of yet more nostalgia for K-01 and K-02.

    And speaking of nostalgia, Toonami’s debut in 1997 had me swimming in it with reruns of Voltron and Thundercats. So I was quick to notice a striking (if not exact) resemblance between Krankor’s 3-barreled gun (used by Phantom in his first showdown with Prince in the abandoned building) and the gun from the back of the Thundertank, almost like he just tore it off. Could these Chickenmen be related to the Mutant Vulturemen of planet Plun-darr? Would Panthro have shown up to mop the floor with them for vandalizing his baby even if PoS hadn’t shown up? These questions may well have been addressed if the Brains had made more new additions to their talent from younger generations over the years. Not complaining, just observing a way the riffing could’ve gone different. It’s likely any experiment could be redone with totally different riffs, ala Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, but I hope CT continues to break new ground and go where the ‘Bots couldn’t instead.

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  • 43

    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the Rifftrax of Star Wars Episode III has a callback to Prince of Space. When Darth Vader is killing the trade federation members, one of them goes “Ooooohhhhh!” and (I think) Kevin shouts, “Macken!”

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  • 44
    mikek says:

    Smoothie of Great Power says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “* No one else has brought it up yet but the fact that Krankor and his men all forgot to wear underpants is far more disturbing than all of the buffalo shots in Outlaw of Gor.”

    I wrote about “areas”. It looks like we are the only ones to do so. Even Sampo has forgotten the numerous, disturbing “areas” in Prince of Space. Perhaps rightly so, but it is worth mentioning.

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  • 45
    The Bolem says:

    You know, the theme song for “Prince of Space Saves Christmas” keeps rolling through my head as well, to the refrain of “King of Pain”:

    I have stared evil chic-,
    -ken men right in–the–face,

    Though their guns can’t hurt me,
    -I still duck in–dis–grace,

    And someday by Space Chief,
    -I may well be–re–placed,

    But ’till then my destiny,
    -is to be Prince–of–Spa…AAACE!

    Prince of Spa-ace!

    I’ll–al–ways–be,
    Prince of Spa-ace!

    I’ll–al–ways–be…

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  • 46
    Big McLargeHuge says:

    Love this episode.

    Is it true that the guy who plays Prince of Space is in fact Sonny Chiba, who later became a classic Japanese action hero? Hard to believe after watching him prance around in his leotard and cape.

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  • 47
    Travis says:

    I think you’ve got the wrong “Raceway Park” in your summary. The link points to the one in Englishtown,NJ,while you meant the track in Shakopee (goracewaypark.com).

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  • 48
    Thanos6 says:

    BigMcLargeHuge: No, but Chiba does play Ironsharp/Space Chief from NEPTUNE MEN.

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  • 49
    Smog Monster says:

    Just a great episode. Somewhere on the Top 100 list, perhaps. Great stuff.

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  • 50
    CMWaters says:

    #13: …well, I guess that’s better than my idea of a fusion crossover movie called “Mitchell vs. Diabolik”.

    ANYWAY, back to Prince of Space.

    This movie always leaves me with a warm feeling inside that some Sci-Fi era episodes don’t. Goofy characters, even goofier costumes, and bad dubbing.

    In other words, “I LIKE IT VERY MUCH.”

    And pointless self-plugging now: A few years ago, the website WrestleCrap (http://www.wrestlecrap.com) mentioned they were looking for a laughtrack. I suggested they use Krankor’s laugh as heard in the Stinger for this episode, and lo and behold, they did. …along with a few others, but Krankor was the first one.

    So the spirit of Krankor is alive and well!

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  • 51
    Sampo says:

    Travis #47: So did THAT Raceway Park also have commercials on the radio that had a little chipmunk voice saying “Hahahahaha RRRRaceway Park!”? If so, perhaps it’s NOT an East Coast reference? There is a Raceway Park in NJ that ran those commercials when I was growing up. I perhaps foolishly assumed it was unique…

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  • 52
    DamonD says:

    Hot on the heels of Riding With Death, yet another of my own personal Mike Top Ten episodes.

    It’s hokey and cheap and silly but, unlike Neptune Men, remains tremendous fun thoughout thanks to the inspired presence of Krankor.

    I can’t express in mere words how much I love, after all their panicky stupidity, the line “On their own, the giant infant scientists survived another minute, and then crashed.”

    Adore this episode.

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  • 53
    Warren says:

    “I’m in space already DAMN” It bothered me that one non-sequiter really wasn’t, it sounded to me like one kid was telling the other, ‘if you’re afraid then go home’. As opposed to staying near an alien spaceship and not being so afraid. Anyway, I’m sure there’s a “Dr. Marken” in there, a dubbing error. Just like “killing diffren”, unless they thought “killing children” wouldn’t get past censors. The special effects deserve a special mention-I’LL THROW MY DOLL UP AT YOU. Ya’ scum.

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  • 54
    John Seavey says:

    “Your weapons are useless–but scare the crap out of me!”

    This one’s a regular in the rotation, a rich slice of black-and-white low-budget made-for-TV badly-dubbed pain. With great sketches, to boot (and it’s worth mentioning that I always crack up at Kevin’s stilted, cheesy reading of the ultimate in deliberately lazy exposition lines, “Welcome…to Roman times!”) Five stars.

    I leave you with this thought:

    “That is one crafty parking meter.”

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  • 55
    Castleton Snob says:

    Love this movie. There are so many one liners that my son and I will say to each other from this movie:

    Thats a toy I wouldn’t mind having, I like it VERY MUCH.

    When Phantoms face is on all the tv’s
    HAR, HAR, HAR…how are ya??

    “Goodmorning gentlemen, welcome to my grandmothers living room.”

    Mickey: Is that a Man?
    Wally (crow): yeah..evidently..

    All the other professors being “Mr. Rooney” look alikes. Lucille..

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  • 56
    OnenuttyTanuki says:

    Does anyone else have the double feature dvd of the regular versions of Prince of Space and Invasion of the Neptune?
    Unriffed POS is pretty good.
    Yet watchin IOTN unriffed is like watching Manos unriffed, you kinda of want to rip your head off by the end.

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  • 57
    snowdog says:

    Travis #47: So did THAT Raceway Park also have commercials on the radio that had a little chipmunk voice saying “Hahahahaha RRRRaceway Park!”? If so, perhaps it’s NOT an East Coast reference? There is a Raceway Park in NJ that ran those commercials when I was growing up. I perhaps foolishly assumed it was unique…

    Those annoying ads STILL run in NJ during the Summer.

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  • 58
    JAY says:

    Such a fun episode…. of our lives.

    “I’ll throw my doll at you!”

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  • 59
    JLH says:

    “I’m ashamed of my talk show.”

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  • 60
    Captain Cab says:

    One of my all time favorite riffs is in this episode: The Prince spouts off his infamous line for the umpteenth time and the bad guys fire off a round of lazers at him, prompting him to duck and roll. Mike: “Your weapons have no effect on me but they DO scare the hell out of me!” LOL

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  • 61
    underwoc says:

    Bolem #13 “And speaking of old serials, a college roommate I watched this with had a theory that the appearance of Krankor’s chickenmen was a characature of how Asians stereotypically see westerners. If so, should Americans who grew up on Flash Gordon view Krankor as logical payback for our idea of Ming the Merciless? I’m not that well-versed in old serials/adventure comic strips, but his theory does make more sense the more I think about it…”

    I’ve always believed that Krankor and his chickenmen were supposed to be caricatures of Americans, too. This film came out 7 years after the formal American occupation of Japan ended, and I think it reflects the frustrations and prejudices the Japanese felt during that time. And while I don’t think PoS was specifically lashing back at any single western production, I believe your friend is accurate in comparing Krankor to other racial stereotyped caracters like Ming the Merciless, Fu Manchu, or any number of evil German scientists (Batwoman’s Professor Neon, for example).

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  • 62
    monoceros4 says:

    Unriffed POS is pretty good.
    Yet watchin IOTN unriffed is like watching Manos unriffed, you kinda of want to rip your head off by the end.

    Agreed. It’s one reason I don’t think Prince of Space and Invasion of the Neptune Men are really that much the same, despite the obvious superficial similarities. Ironically Invasion is a far more serious film: the scientists are competent, the aliens actually seem a little menacing at times, and while the costumed “Space Chief” looks as goofy as the Prince of Space he’s doesn’t act as goofy. As a result the movie is more boring than last week’s Wall Street Journal.

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  • 63
    Prince of Haulin' Ass says:

    Easily a six out of five stars. A top episode all the way around.

    My favorite riff is the one where the camera is fading from Dr. Mackin (or whatever his name is) and he gets this weird scowl on and Mike says “I’m goin’ to mess you up…ugh!” It just cracks me up.

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  • 64
    Edwin B says:

    Love this episode, The English dub sure sounds like a Speed Racer cartoon. Anyone know if they did it?

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  • 65

    Love this episode. Just so much material for the Brains to use. And the sylvan glen host segment was a brave step outside the norm. I loved the unexpected squirrel/mouse/pulltoy that ran right in front of Mike as he was walking down the path.

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  • 66
    Nicias says:

    At the risk of, yet again, overanalyzing a non-sensical plot, this film seems totally unsure of what role the various characters play.

    Point #1 – When first introduced, Johnny calls Suzy “Mom” but later, as she is seen escorting the professor out to his car, she is briefing him on the notes she transcribed from a recent conference, stating “I think you’ll find everything is in order, professor.” Since the professor is clearly established as Johnny’s dad, and he calls Suzy “Mom,” does she call her husband “professor” and serve as his secretary? At first I thought it was just a choice for the English dub, to help explain her very traditional, servile attitude to her husband. But in another scene, Suzy is seen in the rocket lab wearing a lab coat saying “Prince of Space, he’s going AFTER THEM!” So now Suzy’s one of the scientists. To further add to the confusion, the professor states that “Suzy’s brother also deserves some of the credit, and he’s coming home soon” indicated that the walrus-faced “Bryce, when will I see you again!” scientist is her brother. Are Suzy, the professor and her brother all secret rocket-fuel researchers?! If so, why didn’t Krankor also kidnap Suzie, aside from the obvious chauvinistic explanation.

    Point #2 – To further muddy up the character’s roles, the Professor states to Wally “Come, come my boy, you were a tremendous help to me in the laboratory, and your friend Dr. Cummings of America was also a great help.” WHAT?! Is Wally a boot-black or a high-ranking government scientist with international connections?! Didn’t they think it a bit suspicious than an un-educated shoeshine boy was able to assist them in making their secret rocket fuel? That would have put Wally pretty high on my “Secret Identity of Prince of Space” suspect list.

    Hard to tell how much of this is problem with the dub or the original version of the film.

    If I had to pick a favorite character in this film, I would pick the poor doomed fighter pilot. He’s the only one who affects an aura of dignity and confidence. Apparently he was too cool for the film, so they obliterate his character 30 seconds later with a pathetic, undignified death.

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  • 67
    Halomek says:

    Even though the initials for this movie are PoS, I have to say that I LIKE IT VERY MUCH!

    In addition to the gems already mentioned, my sister and I are often heard repeating another riff from this episode. Specially, after the rocket is destroyed and the authorities show up, Tom mimics the siren with “Ooooooh that’s a shame….”

    It just cracks us up. Any time we hear a siren, one of us will usually say that or “Sooodium!”

    Chalk me up as another fan who considers the time lag sketch a fav. I usually love it any time the Brains try something a little more difficult.

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  • 68
    fathermushroom says:

    Somewhat off-topic, but when it comes to Japan-bashing, I was a little shocked at the abundance of Asian race jokes in some of the KTMA episodes. They really said some tasteless stuff in those days. “Are all million eyes of Su Maru slanted?” Stuff like that, though that example wasn’t the worst of them in my recollection.

    Just my two cents before everyone gets all hopped-up over POS and Neptune Men.

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  • 69
    Fart Bargo says:

    This is the episode that told me everything will be all right after Trace left. My favorite at 5.0. Stupid, repetative, hammy and trippy. The host segments were snappy well written and cohesive. I have so many questions, somebody HELP me?

    Krankorians (Krankorites, Krankorings,Krankhens, Kranks?)design space ships that span galaxies yet they have no idea on how to design landing gear? The best they come up with is to have their huge ship DRILL underground. They send up a loopy terrascope(?) AKA parking meter. They also have a tank that DRILLS underground? No wonders these Henmen waste a lot of fuel and needs Makins formula. Whats up with this?

    How does a single bootblack make ends meet in 1960 Tokyo? He waltzes into the local orphanage and picks up two kids and puts them to work bootblacking. For meals he dumps them at the neighbors at meal times, leaves the kids alone at night when he has dinner with a ‘friend’ nor does he call them. He is a bachelor who skips around in a body stocking and a mask, disappears for hours and days at a time and wears baby hats on a jaunty angle on his head and they give this guy two orphans?

    The planet Krankor was a trip, a very bad one! The Giant was about the lamest threat I have ever seen. The landscape reminded me of an Eskimo Pie ad.

    How in high heaven did this film (by 1960 standards which allowed NO male genitalia displays) get by the sensors???!!! Unbelievable that this was released to the public and not one of the Henmen actors just put on some underwear. Were they ordered NOT to wear undergarments (yuck). I can’t believe that this was culturally acceptable practice? Somebody, lie to me on this?

    That depressed, dull, unsmiling, loud, kid!? I can understand why the orphanage dumped him on Prince/Wally. That kid is easily a walking Buzz-kill. His determined, stone cold proclamation of elation expressed as
    ‘I LIKE IT VERY MUCH!’ sums up this episode quite nicely.

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  • 70
    Anglagard1 says:

    My POV:
    This is the episode I would use to dismiss the claim that the Mike episodes were better at riffing and the Joel episodes were better in the host segments. I really liked the host segments in PoS: the riffing, not so much. But of course, this is my opinion after several viewings. When I originally watched it, it was one of my favorites. Perhaps it will be again. Funny how that seems to work.

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  • 71
    Jeff Q says:

    Prince of Space has always been one of my faves. The movie is so silly, the dubbing wretched, the riffing great, and the host segments memorably funny. In fact, the out-of-sequence host segment is my all-time favorite. I had to watch that half a dozen times to really appreciate how cleverly they interacted while out of phase, which just made it all the funnier.

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  • 72
    Luke says:

    As a fan who started watching during Sci-Fi’s re-runs this was a favorite from around the begining for me.

    The time-lag sketch kinda sorta reminds me of the deja vu scene in the “Future Echos” episode of Red Dwarf.

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  • 73
    rcfagnan says:

    He’s PRINCE of watching his SPACE cushion!
    A really fun episode.

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  • 74
    beth says:

    You can say the Roman Times skits were a mixed bag, but at least it gave us some Mary Jo/Bridget time.

    Personally, I loved the Observers, and think they should have stayed there longer.

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  • 75
    tim_servo says:

    One of the top 5 All time great episodes.

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  • 76
    Kilroy says:

    This is my favorite episode, hands down. It’s nothing short of masterful to me. It just kills me from start to stop.

    There’s so many to choose from, but I think “I’m ashamed of my talk show” and “After that dog!” always manage to make me laugh the hardest.

    This one is my ultimate pick-me-up when I truly need it.

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  • 77
    tim_servo says:

    One of the best (top 5) episodes pretty much ever .I agree about Giant Spider Invasion giving it a run for its money in Season 8.

    One reason: I actually remember seing this back in like 1960 when I was a kid and thinking it was cool!
    The lines/riffs a prime
    “A Rare Godzilla Free Day” . is my Widows start WAV.and Krankors Laugh is my log off .WAV

    The whole “Monet in paris ,the japanese dog “ruff-aroo” and “After that dog!” crack me up every time.
    The gang was “on” in their segments:all.
    from Bobo having to “you know..go” to chicken puppet and the arrival in “Roman Times”
    added to the general psychotic Krankor and minions and well it doesnt get much beter than this!

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  • 78
    Evan K says:

    Seriously, guys, I want my chicken puppet.

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  • 79
    billybkool says:

    Although I’m a dedicated Joel fan,
    this is my fave of ALL the episodes !

    It skips rather well.

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  • 80
    The Bolem says:

    The first time I saw the scene where Prince dogfights the giant was one of the few instances I literally fell over laughing. I live close enough to Detroit that the waddling lower half of the monster being met with “Cecil Fielder!” struck a chord, but “Now I’ll swing around and take a crack at that nasty plaque”, was the one that floored me, and must therefore be my pick for fave riff.

    “What, is he escorting them to the county line?” is my runner up. That preceding initial attack from the parking meter that vaporizes everything but hats was actually a decent attempt at a ‘War of the Worlds’ homage, IMHO.

    Their saying his saucer looks like an upside-down covered wheelbarrow sort of leaves me with two more questions:

    1.) 3 shows later, do the ‘bots ever point out how the lower/front half of Space Chief’s flying death-car looks like a tiny rowboat pointed backwards when seen from below? Their respective kitbashed vehicles make for another amusing parallel between our wispy heroes.

    2.) Since the “handles” in front clearly look like they’re supposed to be gunbarrels, how come our Artist only seems to fire weaponized negative scratches from the wheel/node on top?

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  • 81
    Cabbage Patch Elvis says:

    I LIKE IT VERY MUCH.

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  • 82
    Cronkite Moonshot says:

    I have always loved Prince of Space, but I especially grew to cherish it when Sci-Fi was coming to the end of their MST repeats (they showed repeats for what, five years after the show was canceled?) and they seemed to only have the rights to a few episodes. One of them was Prince of Space (another was Invasion of the Neptune Men if I remember correctly) and so they seemed to show it every few weeks or so. It seemed like it was at least once a month. And I’d always watch it, even if it was just on in the background as I was doing something else. It’s still one of the MST episodes I find myself watching most often today.

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  • 83
    creepygirl says:

    I’ve had RHINO Vol. 7 for some time, but this is the first time I pulled out Prince of Space on DVD. As many will remember, PoS ran a lot during both the original run and the 5 years of reruns. I will always buy the DVD sets, but there are a few episodes that I’ve seen so many times that I need to give them space. Wink

    I did enjoy this episode VERY MUCH!

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  • 84
    Happenstance says:

    All my favorite riffs revolve around the giant.

    “He obeys my slightest command!”
    “…Like ‘wander around aimlessly’ and ‘gain weight.'”

    Damn, now I gotta watch it again.

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  • 85
    Rich says:

    The Mike puppet was too too cute. Will look for the scampering chipmunk/ground squirrel next time.

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  • 86
    Fart Bargo says:

    I have always enjoyed when the guys interact with the action on the screen; Joel ‘running’ on a road scene in Warrior…, ducking under swinging gates etc. M&TB trying to avoid the Henmen’s areas were just priceless as were their comments about it. Phantom giving his henchmen Henmen 4 hours off was just so weird?!

    I also noticed that the Japenese make-up and costumers have a ‘gift’ of just grabbing anything in the store room and make it culturally alien. The Phantoms mustashe appears to be glued on upside down for example. He also wears a short cape and lace tutus to denote his power and authority!? Of course we have the no underwear rule in effect as well (bbbrrrrrrr). In Fugitive Alien we have star wolves wearing curly blond wigs under their helmets and a commander who wears tons of makeup (TammyFaye magnitude, God rest her soul) with a nazi helmet. Star Wars should have put Vader in heavy make up like this guy as he was evidently the inspiration for him.

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  • 87
    Rex Dart says:

    Possibly my favorite episode ever. But my favorite episode ever changes from time to time, so I’ll say (conservatively) PoS is one of my top five of all time.

    “Wally’s got some stones to mess wid me.”

    Ah, Captain Manikoti…
    “I understand you’re stuffed with cheese.”

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  • 88
    Cabbage Patch Elvis says:

    “There is dog hair all over the car why do you think that is HMM?”

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  • 89
    Zebulon Pike says:

    This is probably my favorite episode – the jokes are above average throughout.

    My favorite riffs:

    “So no accumulated memory whatsoever.”

    (I fell off the couch when I heard that for the first time. It has almost the same effect now.)

    “Each of you will enter a space capsule.”
    “What?”
    “Oh for crying out loud, EACH OF YOU WILL ENTER A SPACE CAPSULE.”

    (Hysterical! Probably my favorite MST3K line of all time)

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  • 90
    fathermushroom says:

    I neglected to say how I love this movie. It’s the first episode I ever saw, having just read a good write-up about the show in TV Guide, and within 5 minutes I was fumbling for a videotape to start recording. I have watched this episode countless times and, like a few others on this board, I have given it a “rest” for a while, because I simply know the lines too well.

    Still, it’s certainly one of my “desert island” episodes, if ever I should need them.

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  • 91
    Wampa Joe says:

    Definitely in my top five of all episodes. Hell, it’s probably in my top three, with upcoming episodes Space Mutiny and Time Chasers right next to it.

    I always thought the needling of Japanese culture was in good fun, just like the Canadian riffs during Final Sacrifice, the southern slams during Squirm, the British jokes during the first chunk of season 9, or the numerous Midwestern putdowns during… well, nearly every episode.

    The wormhole was also inspired, and I only wish they reused it for sketches during their return trips through it.

    The riffs that have stuck with me are Crow humming the Bob Newhart Show theme during a similar establishing shot, and the famous “Our virtual pets have turned on us!” line. Or was that from Neptune Men?

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  • 92
    losingmydignity says:

    Just to be different I’m going to say how much I dislike this ep… Twisted

    Actually, no I’m not.

    This one is a classic and in my top twenty.

    I watched it for the first time in a while earlier in the week. But something odd did happen this time. I noticed a slow spot a little bit after the middle of the ep, once they get to Krankor’s planet, I think. There is a short stretch where I started to think the riffing (so so brilliant in the first half) is about to fall flat…

    But Mike and the bots pulled themselves out of it. And they seemed to do it (I don’t want to get too analytical here) by going for a more “physical” kind of riffing than in the first half of the ep…that is, just riffing on the physical actions of the goofy aliens, and turning the whole thing into a “Duck Soup” type farce. You can really sense the Brains struggling to keep up the momentum in the second half, they really really seem to want to flee the theatre when they joke about doing so, but they pull it off and it’s one of the great ones. But my point is this ep seems to have two sides to it, at least to me. Didn’t notice on the first bunch of viewings.

    I love seeing Mike and the bots out in the real world. It’s disconserting and surreal in the way those shifts in old British television shows are–when they go from video shot studio interiors to outside film…

    “Woody Allen asked me out!”

    A+

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  • 93
    The Bolem says:

    Once showed this to a friend, who perfectly timed a question about the function of the antennas on all the headpieces; as soon as he finished his sentence, on a close up of Krankor, Mike quipped, “Hold on, I’m pickin’ up a Dodgers game…”, a case of perfect synchronicity.

    Still, there seemed to be some signifigance to PoS shooting the tips of the chickenmen’s antennae to make them fall over from collective headaches, like it destroyed their equilibrium or something. Part of the premise lost in the dub/condensing, or a last minute editing decision to play down the violence of the hero actually shooting them?

    Moving on:

    Like most of my friends, I’m a big amime fan, so it used to bug me a bit that the Brains routinely dismissed all anime and manga as “violent porn cartoons/comics”. But then I realized that being a fan of “anime” in general likely has much to do with growing up in the ’80s, when Voltron and especially Robotech gave kids a glimpse of a world across the pond where cartoons had much more intelligent and mature stories than our beloved toy-commercials, if only we could peel back the veil of edited content, dubbed cop-outs (fortunately they were only robots, I can see their parachutes, good thing it’s Sunday, that was Sven still alive with brown hair and NOT his brother, and the SDF2 was destroyed before the camera could pan over and verify its existence), and unrelated cartoons getting smished together to be long enough for syndication. However, after that decade or so of video companies importing and translating the cream of the crop, so much has been imported in recent years that said cream is often drowned out by the deluge of pocket monster/gaming tie-ins and other such generic crap that even Adult Swim is running out of decent new stuff to air. It’s only natural that the Brains would just reference the handful of stand-out older Japanimation shows that aired in their youth/adolesence, and the horrors they’ve heard of hentai, since that’s all that would stand out in your mind if you “weren’t there”, so I’m not complaining.

    I only typed all that to preface how shocked I was, albeit pleasantly, at a joke made while the masked Krankorians in that car are spying on “Shoe Shine Boy” (was this released before Underdog debuted? I digress…) Just what is Tom saying as that guy reads his newspaper: “they shelled Nagomu again last night”? Because the first several times I watched this, it sure sounded like, “They shelled an ohmu again last night”.

    If the latter, I believe that must be a reference to ‘Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind’, arguably Hayao Miyazaki’s best movie, partly because it managed to have a strong environmental message without beating the viewer over the head with it. Ohmu (can’t remember if I’m spelling that right) looked like enormous horseshoe crabs with compound eyes on their front half, and people harvested their hard shells to make impregnable armor. The riff may have been inspired by the way the henchmen’s masks bulged in and out, reminiscent of gas masks worn by some characters in contaminated areas of Nausicaa’s post-apocalyptic world.

    I really hope I heard “ohmu” right, as that must mean there was a Miyazaki fan amongst the SciFi era Brains! Of course I probably didn’t, or ohmu may have some more widely known meaning I’m unaware of, but what the hell-of-needles, it still makes me feel good.

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  • 94
    badger1970 says:

    This episode has one of my catch phrases for people asking how I am; “I’m having a rare Godzilla free morning.” Paraphrased and all that. For some reason I thought Sonny Chiba was the lead character and then my meds wore off. Great episode and a very clever lagged skit.

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  • 95
    robot rump! says:

    “Jimmy Osmond!” i agree with other posters that there isn’t too much Japan bashing in this. there isn’t nearly as much as IotNM and they could have really gone nuts with that one. and the Japanese do kinda deserve it on a daily basis. a great job riffing on this one. the roman times theme is a little tiresome considering how long it lasts. but i really do enjoys this one.

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  • 96
    John says:

    I’m dazzled that my WardE contribution was linked (Dog & Bear dialog). That was one of the first things I ever did on my first PC, and it’s still out there. I’ve wondered for 10 years now about the literary allusion…Call of the Wild is the first time anyone has ventured a guess, and it’s as good as any.

    Possibly my favorite all-time episode; definitely in the top 3. I use the phrase “easily bamboozled” all the time.

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  • 97
    M "Hahn. Hahn. Hahn. Hahn. Hahn." Sipher says:

    A good friend of mine holds up Prince of Space,the movie itself, as a perfect example (not a horrible one, a perfect one) of one of the most persistent flaws in a lot of Japanese pop-action-fiction, particularly those aimed at kids and teens. And it’s all embodied in the Prince of Space himself.

    Why is he so unstoppable? He’s just right out of the gate inherently better than these alien invaders he’s never encountered at every turn, despite their ability to beat the snot out of everyone else on Earth. He’s the ubermensch, and that’s all we apparently need to know. There’s never a moment of doubt in anything he does. He just plows through everything with his betterness, only at best a glancing nod at cleverness being how he wins… mostly it’s just because he’s Better.

    This general theme pops a lot in action anime, it seems, symbolized by the BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED OVER 9000 HEART OF THE CAAAAAARDS. Granted, more of these “heros” get the snot beat out of them a lot, but still, as a general rule, victory comes from Super Sayining through things, or marginally obvious jabs at “smart” fighting. (Or, nonsensical “wait, what?”, but we’ll leave that alone.)

    There’s no drama to be had here… but tons of comedy. this episode is easily in my top 5 all-time MSTs.

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  • 98
    Jacob says:

    #93:
    I believe they where talking about Japanese pitcher Hideo Nomo, who had 1 good year with the Los Angeles Dodgers and then for the rest of his carrer he did nothing spectacular, and was not particulary good

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  • 99
    Hitler_Building says:

    Is this the one with the “Hitler Building”?

    Just stunning….

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  • 100
    Jeyl says:

    ^Hitler_Building

    Negative. That’s “Invasion of the Neptune Men”. But seriously, you have earned the right to get these two confused.

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  • 101
    OnenuttyTanuki says:

    Bolem, I think the line is “Well Nagmo got a shelled again.”
    Although I have to admit “They shelled an ohmu again last night” would be great on a pin or shirt.

    In case anyone is wondering what an ohmu looks like.
    http://www.onlineghibli.com/nausicaa/newimages/Ohm.jpg

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  • 102

    @93

    That’s definitely a reference to Hideo Nomo, a Japanese pitcher who made a big splash in the early 90s with the Dodgers. As #98 said, he had about 2, 2 1/2 good years and nothing else besides his wonky throwing motion. He pretty much paved the way for guys like Ichiro and World Series MVP Hideki Matsui to come to MLB. Also notable for being one of only five players to throw no-hitters in both leagues.

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  • 103
    The Bolem says:

    Thanks for clearing that up #s 98, 101, and 102.
    Ever have a song that you liked until you almost ruined it for yourself by actually paying attention to the lyrics and grasping the actual meaning, so from then on you just keep trying your hardest to hear what you originally heard, but it usually doesn’t work? I figured that’d be the case for me here.

    Well, I don’t care what they thought they were singing, Big ol’ Jed had a Lighter! He did!

    That reminds me: they actually make grill lighters that extend like Prince of Space’s now, right? If I could find one, I might seriously attempt a PoS costume someday.

    For that matter, did such grill lighters exist back when this was made? If so, were they still such a novelty that one could be passed off as a laser pistol, sort of like how the old Mothra movies passed off silly string as a special effect? Actually, that’d be more like those Buck Rogers brand disintegrator guns issued to the Teenagers From Outer Space.

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  • 104
    Heckubuss says:

    “Ohhh, Speed, oh!”

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  • 105
    Cornjob says:

    Prince of Space!?

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  • 106
    Cabbage Patch Elvis says:

    It’s Santa Claus, and Cheap Trick! OOOOOHHHH!

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  • 107
    The Bolem says:

    Hopefully I won’t keep coming up with oddities tangentially connected to this episode, but one final thing:

    The part where Krankor deploys his Mousetrap device and Prince tricks him by hanging on as it’s raised up: Was he supposed to be fried, but staying in the top part somehow prevented that? This scene is the only one where their weapons actually can’t seem to harm him, as after roasting him fails, the crossfire from all those tri-barreled guns just passes over him as he stands there unflinching. Any idea what was lost in translation?

    But the Mousetrap part, as far as I can tell, must be a standard gag in Japanese boy’s action shows. In the first episode of the 1999 Japan-only Transformers cartoon “Beast Wars Neo”, a mischievous squad of Cybertoron/Maximal/Autobot-ish screw-ups play a prank on their newly assigned commander, an Optimus Prime-ish fellow who turns into a wooly mammoth and is therefore named “Big Convoy”, which honestly does make perfect sense for reasons too complicated to explain here. Not only is the prank the same basket deal (without the frying), but BC counters with the exact same hanging-on-spreadeagle-so-he-can-get-the-drop-on-them move. As far as I know, no chickenmen ever show up, but BWN does feature the only Transformer who becomes a penguin.

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  • 108
    Roman Martel says:

    A little late to this party…

    Great episode, five stars out of five. “I LIKE IT VERY MUCH!” Love the “Dog and Bear” sketch as well as the sylvan glen. I also thought the “Welcome to Roman Times” was very Original Star Trek, down to the little musical flourish.

    Hey Bolem, I heard Ohmu too the first couple times I saw this one, but my wife is a Dodger’s fan so she set me straight.

    As others have mentioned the Japan bashing is a little much, but not nearly as nasty as the “Invasion of the Neptune Men”. That movie just hurts and I think it made the the Brains get a little too nasty.

    But “Prince of Space” is certainly one of my favorite Sci-fi channel episodes.

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  • 109
    smirkboy says:

    I’m also late. . .But It’s never too Late for some Trivia!

    It didn’t register until Boot-Black got chased through the cemetery, but this was a TV series on UHF in the 60’s along side “Astroboy” and “Prince Planet”. (If you’re over Forty-eight and saw them let me know?) Then on Invasion of the Neptune Men, Space-Chief chases the soldiers with too much make-up into the lab and…BOOM!

    This was in the same series!!

    The TV show was called “STAR MAN”
    It was the habit of American distributors to group several short run Japanese shows together to make a complete series of 80 episodes or more.

    “The again on the other hand…”

    The Bolem #93-> My take on the whole “Violent Porn Comics” thing: I had an AKIRA T-shirt and every other time I wore it some guy would come up to me and say:”You like Japanese Cartoons. I saw this movie called “The Overfiend!”
    One saturday a month I would go to the local Anime club and we would watch Fan-Subbed tapes of “Cowboy Bebop” and “Outlaw Star” years before The Cartoon Network aired them. Most of the people in my group had a similar story concerning movies like “Overfiend”. And we would cringe at the thought that Anime was represented in the States by this Low-cell count Atrocity.

    (for those who never saw Overfiend…take about 5 or 6 movies like “Hostel” or “Devil’s Rejects” put them into a blender and toss in some wacked sex scenes and hit mix for a minute.)

    I seem to have strayed…stop me before I digress again!

    and in cinclusion…
    Censors…what censors? Speed Racer rang up quite a Death-toll every episode.

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  • 110
    smirkboy says:

    *and in conclusion.

    I’m getting better at this typing thing.

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  • 111
    Skiptastic says:

    I really like this episode but the whole “That’s two separate ideas” riff thing was ridiculous.

    “I’m not scared. If you are, go on home.”

    That’s what the kid said. What about that doesn’t make sense? I mean, I saw that the first time and they are supposed to be watching these films OVER AND OVER.

    Anyway, this one ranks up there with the Season 3 Sandy Frank episodes, something I wouldn’t say applies to the next Japanese film they do.

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  • 112
    Dan in WI says:

    Let me start by saying: Worm hole, back off.

    There has been much lamenting over the years about the 702 to 906 gap between episodes with shorts. Well that is nothing. We haven’t seen a Japanese movie since 318. That blows away that short-less gap. It has been way to long because these movies beg for the MiSTie treatment. And this one really does pick up where Starforce II leaves off. Sit back and enjoy.

    I just plain don’t get dog and bear. What is that host segment a riff on or is it truly random?

    So Pearl follows Bobo into the wormhole just to preserve casinos. I guess one has to have their priorities.

    This episode features a Gallagher riff. You sure don’t hear those too often since Joel left.

    Add my voice to those who really think the time shift host segment was very clever and well done if not laugh out loud funny.

    Robot Mike seems a lot smarter than regular human Mike. In fact he could give Gypsy a run for her money. Do we know who did the puppetry of the Mike puppet?

    While it was odd to see Mike and the Bots in a sylvan glen, the Brains really didn’t do much with the segment. It’s just kind of there.

    Favorite Riffs:
    The Krankor ship just circles overhead a few times. Crow “Well consider yourself conquered. I gotta go.”

    Crow “Your guns are useless but scare the crap out of me anyway.”

    Krankor “It’s him alright.” Mike as Prince “Saying it is me will have no effect on me.”

    Krankor “Ah good morning gentlemen. You slept well I hope.” Tom “Yes in my double breasted sleeping suit and tie.”

    A car lazily drives down the road. Tom “Is this just a really slow chase scene?…with one car?”

    Crow “Time for our daily empty threats session.”

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  • 113
    robot rump! says:

    yet another in a long line of movies where the hero is victorious not due to their own exceptional nature or abilities but due more to the total incompetence of the villain.

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  • 114
    Sitting Duck says:

    Prince of Space passes the Bechdel Test, but it was a squeaker. Near the beginning, Kimmy asks Susie if she’d be afraid to go into space and she replies.

    Is it just me, or does the movie not bother to dub the rhubarbing?

    Unlike in Gamera vs. Guiron, Servo doesn’t lose it over the translator failing to correctly translate hoshi. Then again, the context isn’t quite as obvious.

    Bill does a really good job portraying Phantom. Though I’m sure we’re all thankful that we couldn’t tell if his costume was fully authentic.

    Speaking of the Japanese and underwear, apparently it’s a fairly recent clothing development for them. Back when the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta The Mikado debuted, a genuine effort was made to make the costuming, props, etc. as authentic as possible. But to the consternation of the wardrobe department, it was learned that Japanese women and their kimonos were much like Scotsmen and their kilts. Another fun fact is that apparently, immediately after WWII ended, the only Japanese women who regularly wore underwear were hookers (which makes the panty flashing in certain anime even more distasteful).

    Here’s an interesting point regarding the brouhaha over the name changing in the dub. Over the past couple of decades, there are some Japanese parents who have given their kids Western names. While not exactly an overwhelming phenomenon, it’s something that is occurring.

    @ #26: In case you still don’t know what cram school is, Wikipedia is your friend.

    Selecting a stinger for this episode must have been tough. While Phantom laughing was a good choice, they could have also gone with one of the variations of Prince of Space exclaiming, “Your weapons are useless!”

    Which brings up the main problem with Prince of Space. A regular complaint about Superman made by people who don’t like him is that, since he’s effectively unstoppable, the stories never have any real tension. Prince of Space is even worse, because at least Superman had Kryptonite.

    Favorite riffs:

    A rare Godzilla-free day.

    An alien race too proud to ask for directions.

    I am the Lemon Zester of Destruction.

    I have no powers, but I can skip reasonably well.

    Mom says I have to wear this in space because it’s cold.

    You kids wanna swab out the particle accelerator?

    They never even had time to tell Houston they had a problem.

    “I can’t move!”
    Oh wait. Sorry, I can move. I just forgot how to for a second.

    It’s kind of hard to go into warp drive when you’re burning so much oil.

    He’s defeated us numerous times. What makes him think he can do it again?

    And a proud, noble civilization dies out. Sometimes. This loser civilization, however, will not be missed.

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  • 115
    Creeping-Death says:

    HA HA HA HA!

    I like it very much. 5 stars. I love the time lag sketch, it always tickles my brain in a weird way. Then there is the robot Mike sketch which is also quite good.

    Favorite lines:

    Crow: Your guns are useless but scare the crap out of me anyway.

    Kid: What’s that? A man?
    Crow: Yeah, believe it or not…

    Mike: (as Phantom of Krankor, who spins in his chair like a Bond villain) Ah, Mr. Bond. Bawk.

    Servo(as Prince): I have no powers, but I can skip reasonably well!

    CO: Ah, Captain Manikata. Come in, please.
    Mike [as CO]: I understand you’re stuffed with cheese.

    Phantom: What a fool!
    Servo (as Phantom): He has defeated us numerous times, what makes him think he can do it again?

    Fugitive Alien reference:
    Mike, Crow and Servo: We are Ken.

    Mike (as Japanese man): Okay, two Italian guys dodge mushrooms thrown by a monkey.
    Servo (as Japanese children): I dunno…

    Crow: Oh, for crying out — EACH! OF! YOU! WILL! ENTER! A! SPACE! CAPSULE!!!

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  • 116
    ARCH HALL 3 says:

    WE HAD A RACEWAY PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO FOR DECADES! I USE TO GO A LOT! FUN TIMES! KNEW A LOT OF THE RACERS ! IT DISSAPPEARED IN THE LATE 80’S OR 90’S IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. ANY CHICAGO MISTIES REMEMBER IT?

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  • 117
    Tom Carberry says:

    Favorite Lines:

    “Good morning gentlemen.” Welcome to my grandma’s living room.
    A rare, Godzilla-free day.
    He’s got some stones to mess with me.
    The SONY blimp…Surrender Dorothy.
    It’s a giant watermelon, Gallagher is taking over.
    [Wally/PoS] “What’s that a man?” Yeah, believe it or not.
    [Kimmy/Little Girl] Wood Allen asked me out.
    “Leave the children alone.” You hear that Jerry Seinfeld?
    You know, this is where you’re cram school experience really comes in handy.
    It was so chilly, I brought my shawl.
    [Rocket explodes] Oh, the inanity. Oh, the Japanity.
    “Ah, Capt. Manakata.” I understand you’re stuffed with cheese.
    [PoS spacecraft] It’s a flying rotary nose hair clipper.
    Great Hall designed by the Lego Corporation.
    So, they’re alien, except for their Chippendale furniture.
    [Guardian] Ross Perot. Oh, he’s a yam with features.
    This movie can’t end enough for me.

    Final Thought: And I though American kid space serials were bad. I give this one 3 out of 5 stars.

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  • 118
    Yipe Striper says:

    classic episode.

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  • 119
    Brandon says:

    I wonder if anyone has ever tried to locate the spot they filmed the “sylvan glen” host segment. I hope it’s still there, and hasn’t been torn out in the years since.

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  • 120
    Of no account says:

    I was thinking this weeks guide would be about Fritz Mondale, but no! It’s Prince of Space!

    One of my all-time favorites (I’m a big fan of Japanese movies/anime/games, so I’m already biased)! I had wondered if PoS was actually an alien who’s world had been ravaged/destroyed by the Krankor, and ended up on Earth (as an inspiration for UFO Robo Grendizer?).

    I’ll also add my vote that the time lag sketch was one of their most brilliantly written scenes.

    In closing: Ha ha ha! Your lack of Likes is useless against me!

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  • 121
    maclen says:

    I noticed this editing choice in this episode just earlier this year. In the scene where Prince of Space first appears to combat Krankor out in the field. When Prince informs Krankor that by shooting at him…because as he KEEPS telling him through out the film ” Your weapons are useless against me”…he is only depleting his power supply. When he’s told by his henchman that it’s true and they wont be able to make it back to their planet…and should they leave…Krankor, who’s back is facing the camera turns dramatically to the face the camera…you can clearly hear that Mike makes the riff, “Make it Peecock!”…but if you watch Crow…you can clearly see him “mouth” the exact riff. It’s clear during filming of the episode…it was Crow who made that riff but it was later edited, for whatever reason to drop Mike in saying the riff.

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  • 122
    Dark Grandma of Death says:

    I agree that this ep is one of the best of Season 8.

    Of more immediate concern to me is a great injustice that’s stood for almost 4 years now. In your summary, Sampo, you say that “Callipygeas” means “fat ass.” Not true! It mean “beautiful buttocks” or “shapely buttocks.” Let’s not malign Kevin’s backside unfairly.

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  • 123
    Larry P. says:

    It’s often a toss-up between this and Horror Of Party Beach as my all-time favorite, so needless to say, I love this episode, a lot. Everything about it just clicks. The riffing is terrific throughout, the host segments are great, and the movie is just the right sort of bad: the plot is nonsensical (and I doubt that’s the result of any editing BBI had to do), the dubbing is ridiculous, and the whole thing right down to the costumes just feeds right into the show.

    Even the ‘little’ riffs in this one have me laughing like an idiot (“The World Championship is on TV tonight.” “Of what?”, “What a powerful beam he must have!” “Thank you.”, “A national emergency?” “Does it affect my bow tie?!”, “Ah, Captain Manicotti.” “I understand you’re filled with cheese.”)

    Yeah, I love this one very much!

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  • 124
    VeryDisturbing says:

    Did anyone count how many times Prince of Space says “Your weapons are useless against me!” ?
    (My guess is a billion, though I’m probably off there. All I know is it got tired REAL quick!)

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  • 125
    VeryDisturbing says:

    Nice hat I like your shoes look at this tree.

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  • 126
    Ryan says:

    Such a fun episode, filled with great lines. One of my favorites is Mike as Krankor starting to do the laugh and then deciding not to. Also, “I’m ashamed of my talk show” always gets me.

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  • 127
    Ryan says:

    Also, this one has a favorite riff, “swing me this way, trusty string!”

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  • 128

    This is a pretty good episode, I think “I like it very much.”

    This is another Sci-fi era episode that has excellent Host Segments (a rarity, but maybe not as rare as I previously thought..), with the opening Dog-and-Bear skit, the very confusing time lag skit in HS#1, puppet Mike in HS#2, and the bizarro visit to the sylvan glen in HS#3. They all work! HS#3 maybe isn’t “funny” but it is just so weird to see Mike and the bots in a forested “real world” setting (we wouldn’t see Mike and the bots in such a setting again until the final moment of the series in the finale, Diabolik).

    Roman Times starts next week… Guess the Host Segment good times are over… (Never was a fan of Roman Times, but I’ll be re-watching over the next few weeks and I’m going to reevaluate them and try to have an open mind. . . we will see).

    The movie itself, PRINCE OF SPACE, is really really crummy, in my opinion. It’s more stupid than silly and its kid-friendly leanings don’t really work for me. Luckily there is some weirdness going on to keep things interesting (the costumes of Krankor, the giant monster thing) and the riffing is pretty good, not one of my all-time faves, but still really good.


    RIFFS:

    Mike: “I’m in space already, DAMN!”

    Crow: “Crank whore?”

    newspapers fly by on the press,
    Crow: “Krankor Nothing to Worry About.”
    Mike: “Truman Capote Sent to Fight Krankor.”

    Crow: “Allow me to reference my earlier policy about your weapons not hurting me.”

    Servo: “Their invasion is like a poorly planned bank heist.”

    ambulance whine,
    Servo: “Oooooo, that’s a shame.”

    giant monster first appears,
    Crow: “WHOA! Look at that! Look at that!”
    Servo: “It’s a trip into Mike’s subconscious.”
    Mike: “It’s pretty accurate, I gotta admit.”

    Crow: “It’s a DQ planet.”

    movie: “You!”
    Servo: “Bite me.”
    movie: “Each and every one of you..”
    Servo: “Bite Me!”

    shot of giant’s legs,
    Servo: “Cecil Fielder!”

    Crow: “He’s gonna UltraBright him to death!.”

    Prince of Space is maybe a PoS,
    but it’s funny.

    I like it very much (although, honestly, not as much as some other S8 episodes..)


    Strong Host Segments drive this one up to a solid 4/5

    that would be 4 out of 5 weapons that are useless against PoS

    Chicken 2 Chicken 2 Chicken 2 Chicken 2

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  • 129
    Joseph Nebus says:

    On looking back at the series I’m kind of amazed they had the Phantom Prince of Krankor as a guest character so rarely; it was just this and Invasion of the Neptune Men, wasn’t it? He seemed to have the right stuff for a recurring character: great costume, persona that can be played with bluster, obvious dialogue hooks about weapons being useless and conquering us all, and a deep-seeded ineptitude. What more could the Brains want?

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  • 130
    cröe says:

    @Skiptastic / #111:
    They were interpreting the line as “I’m not scared if you are” followed quickly by “Go on home”, as opposed to “I’m not scared; if you are, go on home.”

    I’d be upset with the Brains but all of the run-on sentence riffs that were born of their misinterpretation (e.g. “I’m not afraid I’m wearing a tie you go home”) crack me up, so I really can’t hold it against them.

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  • 131
    Depressing Aunt says:

    Oh man, I love this one. The movie is so weird, but I think what makes it perfect is the way the characters are portrayed. Their lives seemed weird even before the aliens showed up, what with the kids’ enjoyable boot-blacking lives that they like very much, and the dog hair-coated car. Everyone’s so earnest and soft-spoken. Including our hero, so patiently rescuing the scientists who do such a bad job of following his mild-mannered orders.

    The host segments really click, too. The whole episode’s a delight, really. What a fine, fine season this was.

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  • 132
    schippers says:

    The Prince is adamant that Phantom’s weapons are useless against him. If this contention were true, then I would expect to see the Prince heroically shrugging off the Phantom’s attacks, much like Superman deflects bullets. Yet we always see the Prince rolling around and dodging and generally acting like someone who really doesn’t want to get hit.

    SO, I conclude that the Phantom’s weapons WOULD be effective against the Prince. He’s just got poor aim (as do all his flunkies).

    I guess if I want to be charitable, I’d concede that the Prince is most likely commenting on Phantom’s lack of acumen in the bad guy business. Shoot, even his huge, ugly giant is put paid by Prince right quick.

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  • 133
    robot rump! says:

    um i am still kind of confused as to WHY a race of tiny batched aliens WOULD come to Earth to steal some rocket fuel when they already have enough to make several round trips from Earth to Krankor? and more to the point, wouldn’t you pack appropriate undergarments on one of those trips?

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  • 134
    robot rump! says:

    #132 schippers
    say what you will about the Krankorian’s aim that doll that Phantom threw came pretty close.

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  • 135

    These are some of my favorite host segments. “Entrails…entrails…”always cracks me up . . . and, of course, Chicken Puppet. The preschool where my youngest sister went had what might have been the same generic chicken puppet they used, and my sister Hilary and I would get her to bring it home so we could amuse ourselves with it. Hilary’s daughter, Lucy, now has her very own homemade chicken puppet, because I am a cool aunt.

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  • 136
    touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    >>>um i am still kind of confused as to WHY a race of tiny batched aliens WOULD come to Earth to steal some rocket fuel when they already have enough to make several round trips from Earth to Krankor?

    They have enough fuel for ONE ship. And, really, for all we know, that’s a prototype ship, the only one of its kind that can operate using whatever interstellar fuel Krankor already has. Or maybe they have to re-fuel each and every time and Earth’s rocket fuel is much more efficient and can last for several trips. There are any number of potential explanations. Sometimes you have to meet movies halfway.

    Plus, for all we know, the original Japanese language script actually explained the situation much better.

    Also, there’s always the easy out in films like this: They’re ALIENS. They don’t THINK like we do, they don’t ACT like we do, they don’t REACT like we do. That’s one of the reasons we call them ALIENS. Wink

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  • 137
    pondoscp says:

    Many, many, many Sci-Fi channel airings, got tired of it. Watched it again recently, and it’s a nice breath of fresh air in Season 8. Among the more enjoyable Sci-Fi era episodes.

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  • 138
    Cornjob says:

    “We are dead.”

    Great episode. Someone here described Gamera vs. Guiron as having the feel of a movie made not just for children but by children as well. How was this pitched?

    “So Earth get’s invaded by chicken men and our only hope is an androgynous acrobat in tights that spends most of his time taking elaborate athletic evasive maneuvers against weapons that have no effect on him. Plus there’s a giant, and the most brilliant minds on earth seem unable to comprehend the simplest statements, and they run around a lot, and the Prince of Space apparently spent years cultivating a position of deep cover as a bootblack with 2 kids who like it very much in order to prepare for threats from space, and, and, and…”

    “Sounds great. Here’s some money. Go film it.”

    It baffles the mind that the culture that brought us Zen Buddhism is responsible for tentacle porn and stuff like this and Invasion of the Neptune Men. What is up with those people?

    Well, let’s shine our shoe’s, sit back with some sushi and enjoy this movie very much.

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  • 139
    KillerKane says:

    at the end of the movie, Krankor sends his minions across the Prince’s line of fire to take the scientists hostages. For the umpteenth time, the Prince slays them easily. Crow says “So no accumulated memory whatsoever!” I fell out of my chair laughing at that one. One of my personal favorite episodes – well above average jokes, delivered brilliantly.

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  • 140
    Pete From Canada says:

    As I watched Prince of Space I actually began to root for the Prince because unlike everyone else in the film he is borderline effective. Watching the scientists mill around like constipated ducks, blundering chicken-men, ludicrous Krankor… it feels like the Prince, dopey as he is, has kind of had it with the rest of these knuckleheads by the end of the film.

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  • 141
    Tim S. Turner says:

    This is the episode I show to newbies to win them over. Works every time!

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  • 142
    Cornjob says:

    When I requested some glossy duplicates of images taken by the Hubble Telescope, the clerk declared, “Prints of space!?”

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  • 143
    Cornjob says:

    The way the baby scientists kept saying, “What??” reminds me of the beginning of Pulp Fiction where Samuel L. Jackson’s character gets tired of one of the college kids asking, “What?” and shot the guy in the shoulder, sticks the gun in his face and says something like, “Say “what” one more time I DARE YOU!” About the time that one of the riffers says, “Oh for crying out loud, EACH. OF. YOU. WILL. BE. PUT. IN. A. SPACE. CAPSULE.” I think Krankor was ready to do the same. Of course he was already going to kill them.

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  • 144
    Cornjob says:

    #139

    Is that a The 9th Configuration reference as your handle?

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  • 145
    mstgator says:

    I’m saddened by the lack of even one Underdog riff with several “shoeshine boy” mentions in the movie.

    Other than that, I LIKE IT VERY MUCH.

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  • 146
    Joe in Seattle says:

    I’ve always been baffled as to why everyone likes this one so much.
    To me, it’s the least funny riffing of any episode in the scifi years.

    2 basic riffs are repeated literally dozens of times:
    One: Pointing out that the bad guys never pick up on the fact that their weapons don’t work.
    Two: Pointing out that the characters look like chickens. There’s a point at which the riffing pretty much stops, and they just keep saying Cluck Cluck! over and over.

    What is it I’m not getting? Do I need help?

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  • 147
    schippers says:

    #146 – You don’t like it very much?

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  • 148
    KillerKane says:

    Cornjob: why yes it is a Ninth Configuration reference. It’s one of my favorite movies. I too liked the “each of you” joke. I think Tom put so much anger into that line that he almost exploded in frustration.

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  • 149
    Creeping-Death says:

    In the original Japanese version, Prince of Space actually wasn’t immune to their ray guns, he was just very good at dodging, the Krankorians(Krankorites?)all graduated from the Imperial Stormtrooper School of Marksmanship, and could also reflect the ray guns. That explains why he always dodges or simply reflects the guns back at them, rather than standing and taking it like Superman would.

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  • 150
    clarimon says:

    This was my first MST3k episode! Back when they were still showing episodes Sat at 6am on Sci Fi channel.

    I have this episode practically memorized; this is one of my favorites to have on in the background and I chuckle while I do housework.

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  • 151
    MSTie says:

    “A rare Godzilla-free day” — one of my fave riffs ever. It’s just fun to say when you step outside on a beautiful day.

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  • 152
    JohnnyRyde says:

    “I’m not scared; if you are, go on home.”

    Strangely, the first few times I watched this one, I heard that line the way the Brains did (i.e. as nonsense). Now I hear it as the dubbers intended… I still like the follow-on riffs though.

    This is another great one for me. I tend to watch it less frequently now because I watched the hell out of it and started to get bored because I memorized all the riffs…

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  • 153
    Savvy says:

    -We like it very much!

    -Crow and Tom really remind you of imaginative children when playing “Dog and Bear”. They’re much cuter than actual children though.

    -I don’t mind these kids as much as the one’s in the Gamera films. Yikes.

    -The “Space-Time Continuum” sketch is a stroke of genius. That must’ve taken some time!

    -I love how even when weapons are useless against him, Prince still occasionally ducks out of their way.

    -Who was talking? Anybody?

    -The worst evil laugh of all time is heard in this movie. Who on earth does an evil laugh like that? It’s too forced!

    -I’d like to note that Boot-blacking, after Side-hacking, is the thing to do.

    -Glad we’re getting to the Roman Times segments!

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