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Now Available from Rifftrax Presents…Kevin and Bill take the point, so to speak, for another “Rifftrax Presents” title…
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as much as this movie was hyped to be so incredibly gory, there is actually very, very little. I can only think of maybe 2 scenes that actually could be considered gory. IMO, the opening scene to Scream has worse gore than all of Saw.
Sorry, I can’t take these types of movies. I wish Rifftrax success with the title, and hope they will soon come out with riffs I can have fun with.
To elaborate a little in light of the lack of gore, what bothers me the most about these movies is the fetishization of violence, and the sheer anti-humanity of the films. I hope everyone who enjoys these movies buys the Rifftrax.
I’ll give this one a pass; I’m not interested in “torture porn”, riffed or non-riffed.
SAW is great! You guys!!! Come on!
*feels all alone*
Well, this is a definite purchase for me in the future. The acting gets really cheesy later in the film and needs some riffing.
Torture porn? Ken, there is no sex in SAW. You got the first part right though.
Sheesh! I’m beginning to agree with others.
These rifftrax are being released way too quickly. The quality on this onslaught of rifftrax releases must be atrocious! And the titles they are picking? Saw? Ugh!? No thanks!
This is nowhere near the vein of MST3K! Disgusting. Best Brains would never have released nor been connected to such a vile and SICK title. Nice job Kevin and Bill. Real nice. :sad:
Torture Porn, huh? And right in time for Mother’s Day…
Your mothers would be proud boys! Sick!
:sad: :sad: :sad:
It’s Rifftrax like these that make you glad you don’t have to film or write host segments, right?!?
Urrgh . . . I will most certainly pass. I love rifftrax and greatly appreciate (Mike) Bill and Kevin . . . but I think this steps over the line of good taste. I most certainly prefer the more family-oriented humor of MST3K-fame . . . sex and violence humor is cheap humor.
I take it that none of you actually bothered to see the movie before getting upset. (Except radioman.) It really isn’t much more violent than your average CSI episode. And it’s a pretty crappy movie, so it’s ripe for riffin’.
I’m not saying you should all go see it, but you shouldn’t cry “torture porn” and scorn Kevin and Bill until you’ve seen the movie.
If it SMELLS like POOP, I’m not about to rub it all over me just to be make sure it IS POOP.
Sorry Mike K, this is definitely “tortue porn” and definitely POOP!
Rifftrax… you ain’t got no class!
(Ben is right!)
And just in time for Mother’s Day? (Say it again – Rifftrax… you ain’t got no class!)
I’m also passing on this one, though I think it would be interesting to see what RiffTrax could do to films in this genre and don’t criticize them for the choice. To each his own. I do wonder if Mike’s absence from this venture is the result of his own distaste for films like this – he seems to be a fairly conservative guy.
I didn’t care for the movie, but it’s not as gory as you might think. The sequels, however, are a whole different ball of wax.
When i was visiting my sister earlier this year, her boyfriend bought the 4th Saw movie when it came out on DVD. As if it was some must see movie. And I have to say, “Torture Porn” is definatly a good description. About as dumb as movies get. I had no interest after 20 minutes. I Remember seeing some of the first one and I dont recall it being so fecal. I’ll give the Rifftrax a chance. I’ve found some of these latest Rifftrax to be a great way of seeing some of these new dumbed down fecal movies for the first time. Transformers, Beowulf and Cloverfield for instance. Didnt have much interest in seeing any of those but they ended up being pretty entertaining riffed. Gonna watch Fresh Prince is Legend next. :)
Whoa, everyone’s gotten all high-brow all of a sudden. Look, I’m not saying it’s a good movie or anything, but for those of you who haven’t seen it (which is pretty much everyone who’s turning up his respective nose at this rifftrax), there were movies done on MST3K (for cryin’ out loud) that were more repulsive. Get over yourselves.
What do you mean “don’t criticize them for the choice.” What are they above criticism, now?
Everyone is entitled to criticism for the choices they make, especially for the poor choices they make. This certainly qualifies as a very poor and distasteful choice. It was, in fact, the distastefulness of Rifftrax that made me stop believing in these guys long ago and as a result, I stopped buying Rifftrax. I noted the dominant “potty humor” present in their new venture in Rifftrax after Rifftrax. I thought these guys were better than this. Apparently not. It made me realize how Jim Mallon must have kept these guys in line at Best Brains. And when they had the opportunity to say anything they wanted, they fell right into their “apparently familiar gutter.”
Sure, you can do anything you like, but that doesn’t mean that everyone has to pat you on the back for it. This may not technically qualify as “torture porn,” but it’s close enough that I don’t really care about the trivial distinctions. Yes, they have the right to do anything they like. And believe it or not, everyone else has the right to criticize them for “this choice” if they so feel inclined.
I felt so inclined to throw my “2 cents” in as I have been and continue to no longer spend it on Rifftrax. I still watch MST3K with my two sons all the time and I never worry about the standard of decency of what they’ll see or hear. It’s a shame that I can’t say the same about Rifftrax. If I want to hear profanity or “potty humor,” I can tune into South Park or the other hundred shows on TV with no standard of decency. These guys were supposed to be different…and better than that. At least that’s what they led us to believe over the many years of MST3K. Somehow, they’ve reverted to crude eight year old boys with a battery of fart jokes and vulgarity as their arms of choice as is evident in many of their Rifftrax efforts.
Thanks, but no thanks! I’m saving my “2 cents” for future releases of MST3K and Cinematic Titanic only. At least Joel Hodgson and the Gang still have a high standard of what humor should and can be.
My apologies: when I wrote “don’t criticize them for the choice,” I meant I don’t criticize them for the choice. Obviously, RiffTrax is open to as much criticism as any other form of entertainment. Sorry that was unclear.
Wow its amazing to see how quickly people critizie something they haven’t even seen. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but relax. I mean when they did 300 how many people sat down with their kids to watch that. This is an sdult movie meant for an adult audience. Not to mention 300 is way more violent and gory than Saw is, its just filmed in a different style. As for mst3k having more class, think about movies like Bloodlust. I mean hunting humans and boiling flesh off of skulls. Nothing has changed, but I guess some people feel like it has.
It’s good to know that the movie isn’t as gory as I thought. Maybe I’ll give the rifftrax a try after all.
In defense of those who hesitate to watch it because of the gore (including myself), how are we supposed to know that it’s not that bad? The impression that the ads (and the hype) gave was that it is exceeding gory. If I don’t like over-the-top gore, I’m not going to go see it just to make sure.
I never wanted to watch any of the SAW films, but my brother visited me about a year ago and he really wanted to watch the first SAW movie.
I had warned him that if the movie began to suck, that I was going to play MST3K with it. He said fine. I lasted five minutes until I started to make jokes. After ten minutes, he was joining in on the joke making. It was the only way to enjoy watching this poor excuse of a Horror film.
I can see why Rifftrax would make fun of this movie. It’s trendy, and the jokes are easy to come by. I’m curious as to what jokes they do use…Maybe some of what I thought up will be said?
Wow.
I, unfortunately, have seen this movie. It was my brother’s birthday, he picked the movie, and I didn’t want to be a party-pooper; plus I didn’t fully understand what I was in for. Also, Cary Elwes was in it…Damn you, Cary Elwes! How you’ve betrayed me!
I remember saying at the time that it would have been so much easier to take if Mike and the ‘bots were watching it with me. That said, I didn’t think they would actually ever make a Rifftrax of it. Now I’m torn: on the one hand, I’m really curious to see what they do with it, but on the other hand, watching it the first time was a truly traumatic experience. I’ll have to check out the sample and decide from there.
What if it is funny? I would be happy! :mrgreen: We all could use a good laugh at this particular movie.
When will they Riff “American History X”? Now that would be good to see!
Hey rifftrax spies! Rip up the American History X! It’s got Ed furlong and Ed Norton!
i dont feel its anyones right to condemn a thing without seeing it. admittidly i am not a fan of the torture form of movies never have been, probably never will. but i havent actually seen them. you wouldnt condemn barack obama as a terrorist cause you saw the pictures of him in muslim garb would you? you acn criticize him all you want if you look into his actual policies and actions. but really dont assualt things with no knowledge other than what you saw in a trailer.
Just an F.Y.I. from someone in the field of RelevantNoise (if you don’t know what it is – google it)
You guys who post anything negative or critical about Rifftrax are wasting your time. Rifftrax employs a tactic known as POP “positive overwhelming posting.”
They watch the posts very carefully on Satellite News and other blogs. For every negative or critical post they see, they quickly counter with 5 to 10 positive or average posts to protect their reputation in the blogosphere. In effect, they lull readers into believing their product must be overwhelming well-received and worthwhile or at the very least worth taking a chance on if the amount of posting leans more to the positive than to the negative. So why post “average posts” or “posts that meander somewhere in the middle,” you ask?
It is all psychological. If every post was “positive,” people would begin to figure out that the posts are fake and more than likely from the same source, but if the posts are varied and ambiguous they still lend themselves more to the positive than to the negative.
Clever, huh?
…And now you know.
It pays to be cynical online. You learn a great deal more from negative reviews than you ever will from the positive ones! If you remember only one thing from MY post, please remember this: You would be amazed at what companies do online to manipulate people!
…Now get ready for 5 to 10 positive or average posts to soon follow!
Rifftrax is never wrong. Everything they do is right and proper. They are the best thing ever in the whole wide world. If Rifftrax decides to do “Faces of Death” or “The Sorrow and the Pity” it will be right and proper.
All hail Rifftrax! They are right and proper.
http://www.relevantnoise.com/
Rifftrax tries to appeal to a wide audience of movie viewers. Whatever tastes, whatever genre, Rifftrax has you, the movie-viewer, in mind.
Hey, to each his or her own, man. This is a democracy, one founded on the principles of free will and choice. If you don’t want to watch “Saw”, or any of Rifftrax’s other choices, then you don’t need to order them. Free will and choices, man– that’s the Rifftrax way.
I’m cynical about cynicism, myself.
Rifftrax rules!!!! But I agree with everyone here.
Wow, you’re onto us. We thought we could fool the world, but…you, sir…YOU busted us.
Damn you! We’re ruined….
Hmmm…
I guess relevantnoise was right!
Get a life Bill Corbett! :twisted:
Calm down everyone…
If you don’t like Rifftrax’s release of Saw (“torture porn”) for Mother’s Day, then please just wait until Father’s Day when they release the Rifftrax version of Lolita (“kiddie porn”).
Rifftrax
“We don’t make “torture porn” movies, we make them funny!”
Class act that Rifftrax is. (Not!)
I’ve decided that somehow this entire entry on Satellite News has been invaded by my grandmother’s friends. I don’t how you guys found the time to figure out how to leave messages here between games of shuffleboard and bridge.
On other note: I say we vote on whether people should be allowed to have their own opinions about everything. There’s a lot of things to have opinions on…and I think limiting the list for some people is a good idea.
I think of this as another flavor at the ice cream shop. This gives a wider range of choices, if you don’t like butter pecan, don’t buy it.
If “Saw” was anything like the “shock” films of the 80’s it’s not going to have a plot, have bad acting/direction, poor lighting and laughable special effects. In other words, it’s ripe for riffing. I not interested though, one “Rufus” film was traumatic enough as it is.
A lot of the movies shown on MST were basically the Saws of their day; shock, exploitative crap designed to appeal to the cinema-goers’ basest lizard-instincts and trying hard to push the boundaries of “decency”. The only real change is where the boundaries were at the time of the film (and how much money gets thrown at your Ewe Ed Boll Wood types). I put it to you that in its own way, “The Creeping Terror”‘s lingering shots of female asses as they’re dragged kicking and screaming (or debatably worse, limply) into the carpet monster’s… well… it looks like a… um… not a mouth, I’ll say that much… other end, really… any rate. It’s pretty horrible. Bloodlust’s ending was pretty over-the-top. The The Eye Creatures’ greasy peepers and “Great Expectations” guy. Manos’ child-bride. Mitchell. MITCHELL. JOE BON BAKER HAVING SEX WITH A SKANKY HOOKER AND BABY OIL AND BEER AND I MAY NEVER EAT AGAIN.
And MST certainly didn’t shy away from the sex and violence jokes through its 10 years. Ator’s ample breasts certainly got their share of blatant tit jokes. I didn’t know you could get away with “dickweed” on TV before MST3K.
I have no intention of watching this one. But I’ve not seen a lot of Rifftraxes simply because I’m not keen on the movies at all, and hunting them down for even RT viewing is more effort than I feel like putting into them. Sorry, Rifftrax, but even with Mike berating her every step of the way, I think I’d rather just slam the ol’ junk in the car door for 90 minutes rather than watch Britney’s movie… a movie that, as far as I’m concerned, is WORSE for cinema and the public than anything Saw or its sequels ever did.
Chill, folks, seriously.
By the way. The “Mother’s Day” thing? It’s called a “joke”. As in “look, here’s a thing probably not appropriate for your mother (I dunno, maybe your mother likes that kind of thing), but we’re going to say it is briefly because it’s in extreme contrast with things that likely are (again, depending on the tastes of your mother), and we don’t actually mean it’s supposed to be for your mother!”
Oy.
@RelevantNoise
I can’t tell if this is supposed to be a joke, a clumsy attempt to advertise your business or just the most insane conspiracy theory type claim I’ve ever seen made about our work to this day. Help me out here, which is it?
Remember when the MST3K guys were once asked what movie they wouldn’t touch?
Child Bride. 1938
Yes. It could be worse. Enjoy SAW and thank God they have good taste in bad movies.
I feel a song coming on…
We don’t like what you have to say,
So we’d like to take your voice away,
Radioman970 and Connor have spoken,
All your posts will be broken!
We use RelevantNoise to counter negative folks,
And spend more time posting here than on our jokes,
In the end our product is sad and lame,
Still we don’t care because we’ve got no shame!
Rifftrax is the best!
We can do no wrong!
If you don’t believe us,
Just re-sing this song!
Thank you. Thank you.
Now come on down to Rifftrax.com for some good ‘ol fashioned torture porn, won’t you?
This hate is just getting pathetic now. I remeber when misties used to be considered the most level-headed, normal fans. If I were judge the fanbase by the comments around here, I’d say anal-retentive is a more accurate word.
I suspect it is only a handful of people carrying this hatred on using multiple names, and to them I say get over it. You’ve crossed over from opinion-sharing into troll territory.
Neither Cinematic Titanic nor Rifftrax are Mst3k 2.0. Get used to it. Rifftrax is a highly hit and miss venture and “The Oozing Skull” was depressing in comparison with Mst3k. But I don’t come on here and constantly spew hatred, because I love all of the old guys. Joel, Mike, Frank, etc., I wish them all the best. They collectively gave me 10 hilarious seasons and a ton of good memories. I hope all of their ventures prosper. And I hope (in vain) all the trolls get a life.
RelevantNoise: The problem I have with your post (and I’m assuming you meant it seriously) is that rather than accepting the content and number of posts at face value, it presumes that nobody could genuinely disagree with one particular point of view, and that if evidence of that appears in the forum, it must be the result of some sort of behind-the-scenes machinations.
Ever hear of Occam’s razor?
Rather than construct an elaborate conspiracy in which only posters with negative views are honestly expressing themselves and people with positive views are just tools of the MAN, why not consider this: When you see more positive comments than negative ones, maybe it’s just that more of the people who visit this site *like* the topic than don’t. And if five positive comments follow a negative one, it might just be that five honest people have been successfully trolled. It could happen!
So I am going to ask everybody, nicely, not to start questioning the motives of people posting here. That way lies madness, trust me. Everybody has a right to an opinion, and, on this forum at least, everybody has the right to have that opinion accepted as genuine and heartfelt.
Besides, it gets a little conVEENient, don’t you think, when everybody who agrees with you is a brave truth teller and everybody who disagrees with you is, you should pardon the expression, a robot?
This web site is dedicated to the proposition that everything every former cast member does professionally is of interest and tends to be pretty darn entertaining. Not always, but most of the time. EVERY former cast member.
If you, in your heart of hearts, have decided that you disapprove of what this or that cast member is up to, you a are welcome to that view, but do NOT be surprised if you find yourself in the minority on THIS forum. And I will thank you NOT to concoct elaborate theories to explain a simple aggregation of like-minded people. Instead it would be a sign of maturity to accept that fact with a little humility and good cheer and cordiality.. If anyone currently posting here finds that too difficult, you are cordially invited to patronize some other Web site.
Thank you.
The “Oozing Skull” was nastier than “Saw”. I don’t understand all the criticism. It’s just like all the complaining over NYPD Blue, if you don’t want to watch it don’t but don’t tell everyone else how they should feel about it. I liked “Saw” it was very suspenseful. I wouldn’t even call it a horror film more of a mystery suspense film. I understand it’s not to everyone’s taste everybody has diff. tastes, I think country music is the worst sounding crap ever spewed forth from the bowels of hell, yet some people don’t vomit when they here it. To each his own.
Well said sampo. Great post couldn’t agree with you more. However, as for rifftrax. I’ve said it once before. I think this format of riffing is a waste of time and talent. Mike, Kevin and Bill need to go back doing the Film Crew gig or everbody make nice and get a new MST3K back up and running. Dare to dream ! Once again to all the fans of Rifftrax. Sorry for the hate. :neutral:
Well, I dunno – my mom loved this as her gift.
I went back and re-read what RelevantNoise had to say. I do not find any fault in what he had to say. He pointed out that Rifftrax obviously posts in this forum to counter negative feedback – as is evidenced above multiple times, he was right. He pointed out that they use a technique called POP and explained it (read above). On this, I don’t know if he is right, but he might be. He NEVER said ONLY “negative posters were telling the truth and that ALL positive posts were tools of the man.” Talk about making a huge jump, Sampo?!? He then finished by giving the advice that people should be cynical online – actually pretty good advice!
And that’s it. That’s basically all he said. And for that, you lampoon him. He never said any specific or particular post here was what, rather only that we should all take note of the practices employed by Rifftrax in quickly countering negative posts, which again seems to be wholly accurate. As for the posts on the particular topic of Rifftrax’s Saw, they seem to be predominantly negative so if they do employ a POP technique it does seem to be rather ineffective at best. Perhaps it should be renamed “Poop.”
Years ago, Yahoo had a discussion/debate site available-can’t remember what they called it– for virtualy every article. Cool at first, but sadly turned into a hate-filled forum where those with too much time on their hands dominated the postings and eventually killed it off. We’ve all heard it before-“if you dont have anything nice to say….”, and while I dont believe that applys to a lot of the ridiculous things that happen today, it surely applys here. This site, and the wonderful entertainment it reports on, are some of the good things in life and deserve to be treated as such.
id like to go on record saying that i am not a tool of the man and i wholeheartedly endorse rifftrax doing saw. maybe it wont be so good but im not gonna get on their back for it. if rifftrax wants to pay me though i will gladly become their tool. are you listening mike?
An observation about gore vs. torture:
Dead Alive (aka Braindead) is one of the goriest films of all time, and it’s one of my all-time favorite movies.
The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre has no blood in it at all and I very nearly didn’t make it through to the end.
Why the difference? It all comes down to the situations. I can endure gore accompanied by ridiculous fight scenes and comedy. But any time the violence get’s too real (something that has happened in real life), I have a much harder time with it regardless of how much blood is shown. It’s just not fun for me. I’ve never seen Saw; the trailer put me off. I’m not into watching people being tortured. I won’t watch Passion of the Christ either.
So, RiffTrax, if you’re listening, I’d like to submit my vote for monsters over sadists. Blood optional.
Anyone who says that SAW isn’t violent is out of their damn minds.
Sure, it isn’t CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST, but there’s an intensity to it all that’s overwhelming for some viewer. It pretty graphic too. Sheesh. It’s not just a CSI episode.
Also, the film is unrelentingly awful. I can’t wait to hear it get ripped to shreds.
:roll: Truth……You mean Chris and Brian, aren’t just providing this site, working so hard, and offering an outlet for MSTies out of the goodness of their heart? They actually expect/hope to receive some sort of paymentor remuneration for the time and effort put into maintaining and running this site? FOR SHAME SAMPO!!
Truth – Thanks for stating the obvious. But something tells me, neither is quitting their day job anytime soon, despite that huge 8% commission from Rifftrax.