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Weekend Discussion Thread: Alternate StingersNext week we’ll do our first episode with a stinger. Appropriately, alert reader sjk suggests:
Well, sure! For example, I always felt that a better stinger for episode 421- MONSTER A-GO-GO would have been the off-camera voice saying “ring-ring” to tell the actor to pick up the phone. Classic. What’s your pick? 88 Replies to “Weekend Discussion Thread: Alternate Stingers”Commenting at Satellite News
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I always thought that the stinger for Invasion of the Neptune Men was weak. I’ve always thought that blowing up the Hitler Building or just in time railroad repair or the guy bowing his head and looking like he was bsrfing would have all been better then the kid falling down.
Great discussion topic!
The first alternate stinger that comes to mind is the “VAAAAAAAANCE!” hill roll from The Giant Spider Invasion.
For Squirm: “You gonna be the worm face!”
The stinger for Operation Double 007 struck me as sort of boring. It was only Adolfo Celi pushing a button.
I would have gone with a shot of Neil Connery in that stupid farmer disguise (Operation Double Oh-Hee-Haw).
In season 8, instead of the stingers with the Observers and Bobo, I would use the following:
‘The Thing That Wouldn’t Die’ The head and the dumb guy exchange a meaningful glance.
‘The Undead’ “STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!”
‘Terror From The Year 5000’ The Terror goosestepping out of the time machine.
‘The She Creature’ The creature flips over the guy on his cot.
For Hobgoblins, Daphne flipping up her skirt would have been more apropos than the golfcart-driving plush puppets.
Not sure, hang on….
-thinks-
Oh, good one! For Amazing Colossal Man: Glenn saying “I just…. don’t wanna grow anymore. I don’t wanna grow any MORE!!!!!!”
Oh, and since I’m watching Lost Continent this morning, I’d like to see Sid Melton being hauled up fanny first, while Hugh Beaumont cracks up in the background, as the stinger.
(Picking a choice for these discussions is like Lay’s potato chips – you can’t have just one!)
Most of the stingers were about right, but there were a few I woudld change (and i agree with the above comment on Neptune Men and The Undead):
Eegah! – “Watch out for snakes!”
Track of the Moon Beast – the ingredient list for the stew
Giant Gila Monster – part of the sheriff/drunk vaudeville scene
Hmmm… Well, here are a couple:
“Manos, the Hands of Fate”: Instead of the girl complaining to the sheriff, go with Manos’ wives wrestling.
“Castle of Fu Manchu”: Instead of the pile-on-the-henchman shot, use Fu and Kato arguing over pulling the switch.
I’ll think about any more I can come up with.
I thought the “Hercules Unchained” stinger wasn’t that amusing; it just had that woman staring. I would choose the scene Ulysses got all excited when Hercules gave him a subtle hint that he knows who he is. Cracked me up the first time I saw it.
In Leech Woman they should have used a stinger snippet from the lame cat fight between Ms. Leech and Neil’s fiance.
In JACK FROST- When Mr. Frost calls for his “ice slay”, and when it appears…someone off screen is making whirring or engine noises to accompany it…either that or the ugly old witch doing high kicks.
I’ve always thought Warrior of the Lost World had a dull and inexplicable “stinger”. There are so many better moments, e.g. “Einstein” getting crushed by Megaweapon, or the Warrior riding straight into a rock wall, or any line of the Warrior’s interminable whining (“Why are we going alone??”)
I would have replaced the Hobgoblins going for a ride with any of the fights with the Hobgoblins.
For “Final Sacrifice”, I always thought they should have used something like when Mike Pipper finds Troy and Rowsdower in his cabin and is all, “MacGreggor? Troy MacGreggor?” Just because is voice is amazing…..
#13 – I agree with the movie that one also has the remarkably awful moment of the old woman explaining she’s blind. You really have to see it to believe it.
For “Soultaker” I would’ve just extended the clip they used to feature a clip of the girl actually undressing. That makes it 5000% creepier.
Also, “The Creeping Terror” is just full of dumb stuff. Although the moment they use is truly wonderful, you could also have gone with: the couple making out while their friend is sitting there awkwardly; the girl in the bikini climbing into the monster; the guitar guy whacking the monster with his instrument; the fight scene when the girl gets her shirt and bra briefly ripped off (bet half of ya didn’t notice that!).
I agree with Sampo for that wonderful bit from “Monster A-Go Go”. (Is wonderful the right word?)
I know I’m giving too many, but I just can’t stop…
For “Blood Waters of Dr. Z” they could have had the part where the scientist is saying “I love you” to the fish.
For “Devil Doll” they could have gotten a shot of the butt lady taking a bow on stage.
For “MANOS” they could have taken one of some five hundred shots of Torgo.
For “Angels’ Revenge” they could have take one of some fifty shots of Jim Backus.
Sorry…I’ll stop now.
“Cave Dwellers” – the limping girl with the arrow.
I couldn’t help it! This is one of my favorite topics yet!
My pick is also Jack Frost, but I would go with the sled driving pigs nodding in unison or maybe “That’s odddddddddd.”
In Hercules Unchained, instead of the Queen’s moment have
one of randy Ulysses chasing the dancing girls. :inlove:
Eegah…WATCH OUT FOR SNAKES!!!!
The Girl in the Gold Boots- The girl missing her pretty mind was good but Buzz teleporting into the diner would have been great!
In Hamlet, I would replace Claudius’ double take with the Danish clowns – the dank, stinky silverfish-infested basement of the clown world….
“I killed that fat barkeep!”
In Deathstalker, I thought the “Potatoes are what we eat” to be an inferior choice. There were so many silly moments in that film.
If I had my druthers, I’d choose as a stinger the scene where Troxartis’ wife Tennis-hog says to him “I guess we’re not going to go to bed after all, are we?” upon which he gives her a look and throws his fur blanket over his pale, naked shoulder.
It just seems right.
Cabot, Cabot, Cabot. Although the one pick is also a classic.
Here some other ideas, not including the episodes from the missing stingers discussion.
If I didn’t mention an episode, it’s because it either had a great stinger already or I couldn’t think of anything.
#208, Lost Continent – Hugh Beaumont laughing as Cesar Romero pulls Sid Melton up a cliff
#209, Hellcats – the ugly closeup of the guy who yells “Get her, Pack!” and freaks out
#212, Godzilla Vs Megalon – Godzilla using a tree in combat
#301, Cave Dwellers – Thong and Ator outwitting the invisible warriors
#302, Gamera – the old farmer freaks out after seeing Gamera in the sky
#303, Pod People – “Good? He’s the best!”
#304, Gamera Vs Barugon – Barugon’s deadly rainbow
#305, Stranded in Space – doctor fails the “Paul Revere” test
#307, Daddy-O – “Want some?” “I want an answer!”
#309, The Amazing Colossal Man – Glen plays lawn darts with a giant syringe
#311, It Conquered the World – the complete Peter Graves closing monologue, not just a snippet
#312, Gamera Vs Guiron – Gamera does an impromptu gymnastics routine
#313, Earth Vs the Spider – Dr. Erhardt versus the spider
#319, War of the Colossal Beast – Mr. B. Natural conjures horns out of thin air
#320, The Unearthly – the dungeon of mutants
#321, Santa Claus Conquers the Martians – Voldar’s distraught expressions after losing the battle royale at the end of the movie
#322, Master Ninja I – Lee Van Cleef destroys the bar
#401, Space Travelers – Gene Hackman having a laughing fit after opening the airlock
#402, Giant Gila Monster – Steamroller Smith: “How’d you ever get me into that bed?”
#408, Hercules Unchained – Ulysses having a happy fit
#409, The Indestructible Man – a closeup of Lon Chaney Jr’s eyes
#411, The Magic Sword – Estelle getting trapped in the cellar
#413, Manhunt in Space – that junk about the spaceship growing cold enough to turn invisible
#415, The Beatniks – “Son, you don’t know what you’re doing!” “I KILLED THAT FAT BARKEEP!”
#418, Attack of the the Eye Creatures – “Another carload of those blasted smoochers on my property! I’ll get the law after ’em!”
#419, The Rebel Set – Mr. T accidentally electrocuting himself
#420, The Human Duplicators – a demonstration of how easily breakable the duplicators are
#421, Monster A-Go-Go – like Sampo mentioned, the phone moment
#422, The Day the Earth Froze – “Bring me… THE SAMPO!”
#423, Bride of the Monster – either someone struggling with the fake rubber octopus or “He tampered in God’s domain”
#424, Manos: The Hands of Fate – either the tender peeping Torgo scene or Torgo getting massaged to death
#501, Warrior of the Lost World – Megaweapon crushing the life out of Einstein
#504, Secret Agent Super Dragon – the title character smugly taunting the dying villain
#506, Eegah – “Watch out for snakes!”
#507, I Accuse My Parents – a drunk Mrs. Wilson introduces herself to Jimmy’s teachers
#511, Gunslinger – Little Man whines about being called “Little Man”
#512, Mitchell – Mitchell’s gun falls down his pants and leaves everyone embarrassed
#513, The Brain That Wouldn’t Die – monster plays the “does this bug you” game from behind the door with Dr. Bill
#515, The Wild World of Batwoman – Batwoman’s horrified reaction to all the duplicate Rat Finks
#517, Beginning of the End – the “grasshoppers on postcards” special effect
#518, The Atomic Brain – Anita gently glides to her death
#519, Outlaw of Gor – the nerdy guy’s endless muttering of “Cabot? Cabot! Cabot. Cabot!”
#522, Teenage Crime Wave – “You’re dirt, Terry. He’d never touch you!”
#601, Girls Town – the Jerry Van Dyke lookalike shouts something incoherent after the race
#603, The Dead Talk Back – anything involving Henry Krasker’s first scene
#604, Zombie Nightmare – Adam West getting dragged into hell
#606, The Creeping Terror – the fat grandpa struggles to get uphill
#609, The Skydivers – the dancing Scotsman
#610, The Violent Years – from the short: “When he looks at me I get, you know, squishy.”
#614, San Francisco International – Pernell Roberts resembling Satan as he meets Davey’s plane
#616, Racket Girls – Joe the Jockey doing something for comic relief
#617, The Sword and the Dragon – the great effect of the Wind Demon blowing gusts of wind
#619, Red Zone Cuba – John Carradine: “Griffin… he ran all the way to hell.” Reporter looks shocked, Carradine smokes a cigarette
#622, Angels Revenge – the final image of Jim Backus
#624, Samson Vs the Vampire Women – El Santo’s classic entrance
#701, Night of the Blood Beast – the cartoony shrimp from the x-ray
#703, Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell – the bizarre acting style of Troxartis in the dark chamber
#704, The Incredible Melting Man – “Hotchka!”
#706, Laserblast – Billy destroys the generic Star Wars billboard
#801, Revenge of the Creature – the creature throws a man into a tree, complete with crappy special effects
#802, The Leech Woman – the strange physics of the villagers falling toward the dynamite blast
#803, The Mole People – the gesture professor gesturing down, down, down
#804, The Deadly Mantis – the colonel unhinging his jaw before attempting to make out
#809, I Was a Teenage Werewolf – Michael Landon throws his milk
#811, Parts: The Clonus Horror – Mr. Noble’s house suddenly blows up while he talks with his wife
#812, The Incredibly Strange Creatures – “You dirty, filthy PEEG!”
#813, Jack Frost – the cudgels finally fall from the sky with the THX sound effects. “These are our own clubs coming down!”
#814, Riding With Death – “Smokey’s gonna put you in the pokey!”
#815, Agent for H.A.R.M. – Adam Chance breaks board, tells agent-in-training: “And that, my dear, is how it’s done.” Agent-in-training looks unimpressed
#817, Horror at Party Beach – the Del-Aires guitarist screams, perhaps because his skull hurts
#818, Devil Doll – the Great Vorelli looking sinister while working on his fake beard
#819, Invasion of the Neptune Men – the bad guys randomly falling over during a fight with Space Chief
#901, The Projected Man – Paul trying to look mean with a diaper on his face
#904, Werewolf – “You and Noel is in it for fame and fortune? But over my dead body!”
#907, Hobgoblins – rake fight!
#910, The Final Sacrifice – evilly voiced Satoris saying “Zap Rowsdower!”
#1001, Soultaker – “Led Zeppelin was wrong, man. There is no stairway to heaven.”
#1002, The Girl in Gold Boots – Buzz teleports into the scene
#1003, Merlin’s Shop of Mystical Wonders – Cooper accidentally setting his bookcase on fire with dragon’s breath
#1004, Future War – Hero throws empty cardboard box at a cyborg, only to have the cyborg punch the empty cardboard box angrily
#1006, Boggy Creek II – farmer’s wife hoses off her spouse
#1007, Track of the Moon Beast – Johnny Longbow talks about his stew
#1012, Squirm – from the short: “Noooo springs!”
#17 In Cave Dweller, I thought the limping girl with the arrow when she ran into the cave and slipped, and Joel/bots quipped, “whoops, someone just mopped”.
Unless there’s a really hilarious line from the movie as the stinger, I prefer an action sequence. I think Time Chasers should have gone with the scene where Nick steals the car and drives it 50 feet before crashing.
A few that come to mind:
Devil Doll : “Ham, I love it!”
Eegah : “Watch out for Snakes!” or possibly “Wowzeewowwow!”
I Accuse My Parents : “I’m Jimmy Wilson’s mother.” “Teehee, she’s drunk!”
TISCTSLABMUZ : “So, you think I should be with the freaks, huh?”
In Hercules and the Captive Women it should’ve been
“Today is dedicated to Uranus!”
How about The Master poking Torgo in the nuts as a stinger for MANOS?
Some stingers I would have liked to see:
-It Conquered the World: Peter Graves’ speech would have been a good stinger if they hadn’t beaten the joke to death during the final sequence. I would have picked a shot of the Venusian creature. That was one of the most absurd-looking monsters in the history of bad cinema.
-Laserblast: Billy blowing up the Star Wars sign and roaring in approval should have made it, if only to show how pathetic the scene was.
-The Incredible Melting Man: “I’M DOCTOR TED NELSON!!!” BLAM! BLAM!
-Escape 2000: Henry Cavil sips his coffee, only to spit it out and yell “I TOLD YOU NOT TO PUT SUGAR IN MY COFFEE!! IT MAKES ME CRAZY!!!”
Hobgoblins: Kyle talks on the phone with Fantazia. His moaning was the perfect way to end it.
out MSTied again. don’t choke on all the shrimp at the buffet.
Three more:
“The Dead Talk Back”: Instead of the woman screaming, the shot of Krasker from the beginning with, ‘Oh, it’s true.” (An earlier poster beat me to this one.)
“Starfighters”: Instead of the guy getting elbowed, one of the 20 million refueling scenes.
“High School Big Shot”: Instead of the shot of the crook, the shot of the hanging dad’s shadow.
#32 –
Someone has hunky young actors on the brain! It’s actually Henry Silva (supplied ny Rent-A-Silva), not Henry Cavill.
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians: “All this trouble over a fat little man in a red suit.” (A wonderful line)
Hercules Unchained: A lot of ridiculous moments, I liked Ulysses catapulting himself across the room to prevent Hercules from drinking some potion.
@Michael D. #32 – The “It makes me CRAZY!” line in Escape 2000 truly is one of the biggest missed chances in stinger history.
Re: #3 – You dor ealize that actually was used as the stinger for that episode?
For “Santa Clause Conqures the martians”, I would have included the guy in the polar bear costume.
“Incredibly Strange Creatures” should have used the robot monkey yelling, “Git yo tickets hee-ya!”
John M. Hanna #5:
In season 8, instead of the stingers with the Observers and Bobo, I would use the following:
‘The Thing That Wouldn’t Die’ The head and the dumb guy exchange a meaningful glance.
Personally, I would go with Dowser Girl yelling, “You’re all evil!!!!!”
I can’t recall the exact phrasing but I would replace Projected Man’s Lembeck is staying stinger to the dectective saying I never expected to see Harry in this position!, or alternatively the Tell my eyebrows I love them shot.
In 501 Warrior of the Lost World, I would have shown the part of Einstein getting crushed by Megaweapon.
512 Mitchell, although they made a good choice with Mitchell screaming at the skate-boarding kid, I would have chosen to show Joe Don Baker sleeping in the back-seat of the patrol car that’s going to John Saxon’s house.
@Sitting Duck #39 – Haha! Yeah, I remember watching that episode for the first time and thinking: “That’s gotta be the stupid moment of this movie.”
“I hope you all die!” Um, overreact much?
Terror from the Year 5000: Professor Flattop skipping after his bout with Claire.
For the Final Sacrifice, Rowsdower huffing and puffing up the hill as he’s being chased.
Well, “Watch Out For Snakes” is the obvious answer. Thanks #9, #20, #26 (above and beyond the call, Green Switch), and #29 for going ahead with that one.
From another one of my favorites: in LASERBLAST, instead of the hippie “faaaar out”, I would have used the “squealing tires on dirt” scene with the two bumbling cops and the “I’m a dumb, skinny cracker” shrug from the skinny-cracker cop. That stuff cracks me up!
Santa Claus Conquers The Martians:Kimar “tases” Dropo..,or Dropo not sure what room he’s in.
The Screaming Skull: (from the “Robot Rumpus” short) Gumbo has a “gut-wrenching” experience.
The Magic Voyage of Sinbad: Mr.and Mrs. Neptune arguing.
Jack Frost:The ugly sister chewing and spitting nuts…Grandfather Frost:”Oh no! This will not do!”
Horrors of Spider Island:Gary crossing his legs.
Ah. Alternate stingers. The perfect topic to bring up these:
The Crawling Hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRWBDItNTI
Robot Monster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiaU3JzHVBM
The Black Scorpion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtfXTpvvO0
Rocketship XM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUvyLyc_cZI
Sidehackers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSaL95XvQqw
Catalina Caper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZwzswff2E
The Thing That Couldn’t Die: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxGV2h_et0U
Terror From the Year 5000: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-RYqdXdt1o
My dream stinger predictably is for Gamera vs. Guiron:
“What a superior civilization. You know, I looked in my telescope every day, and I thought there’d be a perfect planet without work, and wars, and traffic accidents.”
Off the top of my head:
The Girl in Gold Boots – while I like Buzz teleporting, I think a more appropriate stinger would be the dune buggy ride. It’s a pointless scene in a movie full of pointless scenes.
I Accuse My Parents – Jimmy being beaten up in the alleyway
The Skydivers – Either Suzy attacking Harry outside the bar, or the creepy guy ogling Tom Boerwinkle at the night jump hootenany.
That’s it for now.
#408 Hercules Unchained: Ulysses going cuckoo for cocoa puffs!
#412 Hercules and the Captive Women: “Today is dedicated to Uranus!”
This is a superb thread! :-))